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Old Nov 5, 2018 | 04:48 PM
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Its a great product. Gives you zero chance of leakage, and when you rebuild next time (a lot of us do) it comes right out. The front cover actually holds it in. I hate those stupid Oem expansion plugs. Hard to believe that it took someone 20 years to Come up with a better way to control oil flow in the LS platform.
The barbell? Leakage? There is nothing to leak. It's an enclosed system
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Old Nov 5, 2018 | 04:52 PM
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The barbell? Leakage? There is nothing to leak. It's an enclosed system
Sorry, I was referring to the stupid front plug.
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Old Nov 5, 2018 | 05:09 PM
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That tap and pipe plug idea sounds like a winner. Easy to do and makes any future tear down and cleans super easy.

I'd never feel good about a piece of wood or cork being hammered in there.

And OP to answer your question things are only easy to find when a lot of that item is sold. How often are people searching for and buying 41/64 ths plugs? Pretty much never.
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Old Nov 5, 2018 | 08:43 PM
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i was totally joking about smashing wood in there. just get the right plug off ebay. its $3 lol
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Old Nov 5, 2018 | 09:15 PM
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IS the metal barbell thinner allowing faster drainage back to the pan?
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Old Nov 5, 2018 | 09:20 PM
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FWIW I also have the Sac city barbell and front plug and knew going into it that it’s not an essential “upgrade”. One thing that hasn’t been mentioned though, is that if you did have these bits, the non-problem you’re having now would have never made it to this forum as they would have slid out on disassembly then slid right back in on reassembly without giving them a second thought. Hell you probably would have been doing wheelies pissing off the neighbors by now.

And also, for who ever said leaking is not an issue since it’s a sealed system, why not just skip the plugs all together?
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Old Nov 5, 2018 | 09:53 PM
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The barbell is in the pressure side of things which has nothing to do with drainback. It allows less oil to bypass because of its tighter fit than the plastic barbell does. Oil pressure could increase some as a result. It's just more efficient.
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Old Nov 6, 2018 | 06:55 PM
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I second the pipe plug idea; I've done this on a few engines over the years that have pressed in oil plugs (one of those engines is powering my daily driver. It's a Ford, but the concept is the same.).
The tap is available cheaper than I thought: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Drill-Am...B&gclsrc=aw.ds
Take my word for it, though, it's gonna be a real fight getting that thing threaded; due to the nature of pipe thread, it just gets harder and harder to turn the deeper it goes.
Get your breaker bar and cheater pipe out.
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Originally Posted by dixiebandit69
I second the pipe plug idea; I've done this on a few engines over the years that have pressed in oil plugs (one of those engines is powering my daily driver. It's a Ford, but the concept is the same.).
The tap is available cheaper than I thought: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Drill-Am...B&gclsrc=aw.ds
Take my word for it, though, it's gonna be a real fight getting that thing threaded; due to the nature of pipe thread, it just gets harder and harder to turn the deeper it goes.
Get your breaker bar and cheater pipe out.

Don't go crazy there, end up cracking the block, the pipe threads expand further the further you go in, eventually something has to give. No need to go deep, just deep enough to thread in the plug.
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 00pooterSS

I'd never feel good about a piece of wood or cork being hammered in there.
Come on man you have to know it was a joke.
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
SacCity, the place where you bought your barbell, also makes a front o-ringed plug for this location. It’s trick!
Thank you sir!
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DietCoke
Nothing like a metal barbell to fix a problem that doesn't exist. Sales 101: Sell you a problem then sell you a solution.
I wouldnt say its a non problem. The oem barbell is loose as **** which would let small particels to bypass the oil filter. Its not a big problem but it does what it says. Sorry but you are wrong sir.

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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
The barbell is in the pressure side of things which has nothing to do with drainback. It allows less oil to bypass because of its tighter fit than the plastic barbell does. Oil pressure could increase some as a result. It's just more efficient.
exactly. The stock barbell is loose as **** so i know it has to let particles past it. Is it 100% critical..no..but niether are head studs if your running >600hp..but i bet it keeps your engine oil cleaner and helps your engine last longer.
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 01:40 PM
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My opinion is the aluminum billet barbell improves the oil system overall by better filtration and some pressure improvement.

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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
My opinion is the SS barbell improves the oil system overall by better filtration and some pressure improvement.
Yea the diffrence between the SS and OEM is night and day. The OEM is loose and just think about the particles bypassing your oil filter and embedding in your bearings..i didnt buy mine just because it was shiny i bought it because what they said made sense .
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 05:15 PM
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Loose in the hole is never a good thing.
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MY_2K_Z
Come on man you have to know it was a joke.
Man, sometimes I just don't know anymore lol.
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
My opinion is the SS barbell improves the oil system overall by better filtration and some pressure improvement.
Originally Posted by Rick5.3
Yea the diffrence between the SS and OEM is night and day. The OEM is loose and just think about the particles bypassing your oil filter and embedding in your bearings..i didnt buy mine just because it was shiny i bought it because what they said made sense .
FYI, there aluminum not stainless steel...
From there site
Our 6061 Aluminum Precision Billet Barbell fits with approximately .001” clearance
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 1FastBrick
FYI, they're aluminum, not stainless steel...
From their site
You are right! My memory ran into a brain fart. I looked too and saw what you saw....
O.P. corrected to reflect this. Thanks!
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick5.3
I wouldnt say its a non problem. The oem barbell is loose as **** which would let small particels to bypass the oil filter. Its not a big problem but it does what it says. Sorry but you are wrong sir.
The oil filter itself lets particles bypass the oil filter. You do know that, right? Huge misconception that people think all of their oil passes through the filter media every trip its pumped around the engine. That's not how it works. Any time you're pushing over about 20-30psi depending on temperature and brand of oil filter, the bypass starts to open.
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