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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 02:39 PM
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That could definitely be your issue there.

Who knows how it happens but I have seen several sensors seep fluid through to the connector.

I've had a fuel injector do that and send fuel up the wiring and fill up the PCM with fuel

I've seen a coolant temp sensor fill up a PCM with coolant from the same thing. The internal seals go bad and sends fluid into the connector, the connector is sealed and if the sensor goes into fluid that is pressurized it will send fluid up the wiring, it's crazy ****.

You won't have that issue though, just clean it up and put another new sensor in. Or put the old one back in, I'm a tech and I've never seen one of the OEM sensors fail
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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 08:00 AM
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That is some crazy stuff right there. I went ahead and swapped the old one back in. It started up and seemed to idle a little better. I haven't been able to take it for a long drive to see if it happens again but maybe this weekend. I also checked the grounds and they're good.
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Old Dec 25, 2019 | 09:43 PM
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So drove it again and still the same issues...... Im going to try one more crankshaft sensor, (delphi), and see if it gets better. Could the reluctor wheel have been damaged due to the over rev? If not, the only other thing i can think of is the PCM......
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Old Dec 25, 2019 | 11:14 PM
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So drove it again and still the same issues...... Im going to try one more crankshaft sensor, (delphi), and see if it gets better. Could the reluctor wheel have been damaged due to the over rev? If not, the only other thing i can think of is the PCM......
Only if it hit something, but then you'd have other issues.
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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 03:39 PM
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Only if it hit something, but then you'd have other issues.
Yeah, thats what i figure. But it starts fine, plus the builder tacked the reluctor wheel to the crank
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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 05:15 PM
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So drove it again and still the same issues...... Im going to try one more crankshaft sensor, (delphi), and see if it gets better. Could the reluctor wheel have been damaged due to the over rev? If not, the only other thing i can think of is the PCM......
Super unlikely it did anything to the reluctor but I would take a real good look at it with the crank sensor out. Spin the crank around and look for the wheel to be bent (doesn't run straight) dinged, or anything but perfect
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 10:52 AM
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Super unlikely it did anything to the reluctor but I would take a real good look at it with the crank sensor out. Spin the crank around and look for the wheel to be bent (doesn't run straight) dinged, or anything but perfect
Ill try and see if I can check it once i get the sensor out.
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 04:11 PM
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Ok... I removed the crank sensor and took a look at the reluctor wheel while i turned it. Looks good to me. I also stuck my finger in there and spun it too see if i felt anything odd, nothing...... I swapped in the new crank sensor. Started up, but when i took it for a test drive it started popping and misfiring BAD! I was lucky to get it back into the garage. And now this time, the car dies when i press the clutch in while in neutral or in gear. No SES light popped up but it did have the p0336 and p0300 in there like always. Could it be the ECU that is going or gone bad??? This is driving me nuts!! Going to swap in the old crank sensor again......

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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 07:50 PM
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Not CKP related but have you pulled the valve covers to take a looksey? I’d rule out bent pushrods, broke springs before I went further. Easy diagnostic that’s free to try...
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Not CKP related but have you pulled the valve covers to take a looksey? I’d rule out bent pushrods, broke springs before I went further. Easy diagnostic that’s free to try...
Did that already and all is good. Here is the funny thing, when i put the old crank sensor in, I shimmed it with a small washer. I also pulled the ECU and checked the continuity from the crank sensor to the connector and reseated the connectors on the ECU and then put it back in place without the plastic "holder" it sits in. Took it for a short ride around the block and then later checked the codes again and the P0336 went away without me clearing it...... WTF..... right.....
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Originally Posted by blkbird
Did that already and all is good. Here is the funny thing, when i put the old crank sensor in, I shimmed it with a small washer. I also pulled the ECU and checked the continuity from the crank sensor to the connector and reseated the connectors on the ECU and then put it back in place without the plastic "holder" it sits in. Took it for a short ride around the block and then later checked the codes again and the P0336 went away without me clearing it...... WTF..... right.....
How did it run?
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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 08:17 PM
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How did it run?
It ran good for the short trip. Better than it had before. No stumbling nor did it die on me. But it was a short trip.
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Originally Posted by blkbird
Did that already and all is good. Here is the funny thing, when i put the old crank sensor in, I shimmed it with a small washer. I also pulled the ECU and checked the continuity from the crank sensor to the connector and reseated the connectors on the ECU and then put it back in place without the plastic "holder" it sits in. Took it for a short ride around the block and then later checked the codes again and the P0336 went away without me clearing it...... WTF..... right.....
I bet you reconnecting things might have straightened this mess out. MAYBE take the washer back out and see if it makes a difference.
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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
I bet you reconnecting things might have straightened this mess out. MAYBE take the washer back out and see if it makes a difference.
Maybe... but i did also notice some corrosion around one of the edges of the ECU, so i dont know if that is also an issue.
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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by blkbird
Maybe... but i did also notice some corrosion around one of the edges of the ECU, so i dont know if that is also an issue.
On or near the connectors?
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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
On or near the connectors?
Around one of the bottom corners where it makes the seal. Not on the connectors
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I have fixed a few cars in my day by unplugging the PCM and plugging it back in. It is a thing...

Connections get slightly corroded, to the point you may not be able to even see it in those tiny pins, from sitting in one spot for years. Unplugging and replugging actually scrapes the pins a little and restores the connection.
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Originally Posted by 00pooterSS
I have fixed a few cars in my day by unplugging the PCM and plugging it back in. It is a thing...

Connections get slightly corroded, to the point you may not be able to even see it in those tiny pins, from sitting in one spot for years. Unplugging and replugging actually scrapes the pins a little and restores the connection.
Ill try to take it for a longer trip later this week and see how it does. I appreciate all the input guys!
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You should carefully inspect all the valve springs for cracks or other defects.
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You should carefully inspect all the valve springs for cracks or other defects.
Done that.
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