Ws6 store high lift hot cam
08-11-2019, 09:04 PM
#41
The split isnt bad. Some people just like other cam companies. As far as the ws6store high lift hot cam vs the titan 2, id say they are too close to make a decision. I have not completely compared them but im pretty sure our intake lobe has very close to the same advertised duration and maybe a degree or 2 less @.200 and of course more over .598 and over .586 also as well as more @.050 on the exhaust.
The intake duration on the t2 is going to cost you some below 2800 vs ours also.
While i enjoy competition the amount of people trying to talk you into another cam with some biased info seems to be pretty high for people that have never run them to begin with.
Our high lift hot cam is no magic, but its superior quality and design and a very good performer for what it is. The guys that run it love it like the other 2 posting in here.
The intake duration on the t2 is going to cost you some below 2800 vs ours also.
While i enjoy competition the amount of people trying to talk you into another cam with some biased info seems to be pretty high for people that have never run them to begin with.
Our high lift hot cam is no magic, but its superior quality and design and a very good performer for what it is. The guys that run it love it like the other 2 posting in here.
08-11-2019, 10:24 PM
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The split isnt bad. Some people just like other cam companies. As far as the ws6store high lift hot cam vs the titan 2, id say they are too close to make a decision. I have not completely compared them but im pretty sure our intake lobe has very close to the same advertised duration and maybe a degree or 2 less @.200 and of course more over .598 and over .586 also as well as more @.050 on the exhaust.
The intake duration on the t2 is going to cost you some below 2800 vs ours also.
While i enjoy competition the amount of people trying to talk you into another cam with some biased info seems to be pretty high for people that have never run them to begin with.
Our high lift hot cam is no magic, but its superior quality and design and a very good performer for what it is. The guys that run it love it like the other 2 posting in here.
The intake duration on the t2 is going to cost you some below 2800 vs ours also.
While i enjoy competition the amount of people trying to talk you into another cam with some biased info seems to be pretty high for people that have never run them to begin with.
Our high lift hot cam is no magic, but its superior quality and design and a very good performer for what it is. The guys that run it love it like the other 2 posting in here.
Even the btr ls1 stage 1 & 2, which are both larger cams, 223/230 & 227/234 have +7 degree exhaust splits, still more than necessary imo,
when tsp lists primarily single pattern cams for NA LS1 and shows excellant graphs & data to support them.
The hlhc imo is a tired spec that has been improved by better cores (tsp perhaps), lobe profiles and certainly lift, but who else is speccing
a +9* exhaust split on such a small intake duration (sub 220*) for a ls1 NA application with ported heads, LTs and a efficient exhaust system?
08-12-2019, 09:17 AM
#45
If I had a 6 speed I wouldve chose a different cam I think. At this point all I know is its worthless to pull my HLHC for anything else other than head/cam package.
Wish I had a yank or FTI converter in my car and had some track times for you. I think its about perfect for an automatic car, a higher stall may change that thought but only in a good way.
Wish I had a yank or FTI converter in my car and had some track times for you. I think its about perfect for an automatic car, a higher stall may change that thought but only in a good way.
08-12-2019, 08:46 PM
#47
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08-13-2019, 08:38 AM
#50
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08-13-2019, 05:49 PM
#51
Well I just ordered a FTI 3800 stall. I fully expect to go from 12.7 to 12.2 or lower next time out as long as I don't blow the tires off. If not than this cam is a POS ;-)
08-13-2019, 05:49 PM
#52
Not as biased as you, or your hlhc exhaust duration LOL.
Even the btr ls1 stage 1 & 2, which are both larger cams, 223/230 & 227/234 have +7 degree exhaust splits, still more than necessary imo,
when tsp lists primarily single pattern cams for NA LS1 and shows excellant graphs & data to support them.
The hlhc imo is a tired spec that has been improved by better cores (tsp perhaps), lobe profiles and certainly lift, but who else is speccing
a +9* exhaust split on such a small intake duration (sub 220*) for a ls1 NA application with ported heads, LTs and a efficient exhaust system?
Even the btr ls1 stage 1 & 2, which are both larger cams, 223/230 & 227/234 have +7 degree exhaust splits, still more than necessary imo,
when tsp lists primarily single pattern cams for NA LS1 and shows excellant graphs & data to support them.
The hlhc imo is a tired spec that has been improved by better cores (tsp perhaps), lobe profiles and certainly lift, but who else is speccing
a +9* exhaust split on such a small intake duration (sub 220*) for a ls1 NA application with ported heads, LTs and a efficient exhaust system?
Tell your exhaust split theory to Lingenfelter. Im sure theyd have some issues with it.
We have some guys making 400hp on this cam with mild modifications. Thats from them telling me. That in itself is better than avg and other larger cams with less split.
The intake is only "small" @.050. The rest? Well like i said it pretty close to other larger @.050 lobes in other specs.
The original prototype on comp lobes gained significant mph from just the cam swap and no retune. You can gain et easy but mph is the true test. Same car same dragstrip worse da for anyone wondering.
I designed the lobes myself. The cam core will make 0 difference on performance though. Durability and longevity, yes, but not performance.
You dont know enough to make these statements.
Tsp lists primarily single patterns?
There is a 220r 224r 228r. How many cams for cathedral port do they offer? 23 plus any they custom spec. Their stage 4 high lift makes more power than the 224r does and its 1* less on the intake.
Everyone has their own way of specing cams.
Someone once said "its not the intake duration that makes the power its the exhaust"
That was on here, not too long ago. I maybe butchered the exact verbatim but that is what was said and that person is held in pretty high esteem for cams etc. That is somewhat true to an extent.
If you dont know all the data youre drawing the wrong conclusion.
Tsp cnc cam machines are far more capable than any of the others out there. They make sure of that. So the lobes do matter. Every part.
If it still makes power and can outpower the competition or larger cams, then its not oudated. Even if you dont personally agree with it.
Its not magic, but it is impressive and thats not just coming from me. Thats every customers feedback. Itll also pass emissions guaranteed and works great with a stock converter and even better with a mild stall.
For daily drivers they like the power under 2800. And they like a robust mid range. This cam is exactly that.
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08-13-2019, 08:52 PM
#53
Will the high lift hot cam make more power and torque than the tsp stg 4 high lift 223 226 600 lift 113+3? Does it have better lobes than tsp and will it be better for 1/4 mile drag strip times with a 3200 stall and 3.23 gears than the 223 226. Just curious if they are pretty close in performance.
08-13-2019, 09:01 PM
#54
The tsp cam I mentioned has -1.5 overlap and high lift hot cam has -1.5 also. Does that mean they will sound about the same idling as far as lope? Will one have more lope than the other. Just curious which one will sound meaner.
08-14-2019, 03:53 AM
#56
Will the high lift hot cam make more power and torque than the tsp stg 4 high lift 223 226 600 lift 113+3? Does it have better lobes than tsp and will it be better for 1/4 mile drag strip times with a 3200 stall and 3.23 gears than the 223 226. Just curious if they are pretty close in performance.
I think the peak power numbers would be close with a slight loss on the stg4 cam down low.. both are a good option.