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Old 08-12-2019, 11:49 AM
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I have a 4.8 that i was going to swap into my 85 c10 but recently found a 6.0 for very cheap ($500) that will be a better fit for my truck; so the 4.8 will be the power plant i will use for the race car. The car will be a 1985 fb rx7 (2400lbs) a car that my dad has just sitting around going bad. The rx7 is a gls-se which is the one that most want because it came factory with power steering, 5 speed, 390 limited slip rear, disk brakes all 4 corners.

So that's is the back drop, now i need your guys help with my 4.8 hop up. I would like for the 4.8 to stay N/A so nothing thats crazy..im thinking 300whp in a less than 2400lbs car would be pretty quick on a road course; plus should be fairly reliable at that power level. Right now i have a complete 2003 4.8 and a Corvette z06 ls6 intake. I know i need a cam, long tube headers maybe a dry sump system and i plan to use the factory rx7 oil cooler. The engine would need to rev out to at least 7k rpm. Which cam do i need? Springs? This will be a manual so i wont have to deal with stalls and all that jazz. Lol. do i need to mill the heads to gain some hp? Trying to stay under 5k for the whole build. Of course as i get into it there will be extended cost..its racing! This will be my winter project. Thanks
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Mill the stock heads at least .025"
Pick a camshaft with a 21x/22x intake duration and a 22x exhaust duration, 112-115 LSA and it'll rev to 7k on a 4.8.
Springs will depend on camshaft choice. For road racing, it might be worth it to skip straight to a double spring setup with shims if your cam has less than .600 lift.
After the cam/mill, make sure your pushrods are the correct length.
Dry sump not needed with the right oil pan baffling setup.

Easy 350-370whp 4.8.
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http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...oducts_id=8670

From what ive read on here that is a AWESOME cam AND spring kit for what your trying to do since the lobes arent too aggressive. it will rev passed 7000 but be a little easier on the valve train than most. Add a trunion kit and some pushrods and your good to go.
Some of the new summit cams are supposed to be easier on the valve-train too but I would ask them about that.
And of course you can call up any of the big cam manufactures and spend some dough on what they recommend if you got it.
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Thanks for the reply guys, can you go into more detail about correct oil pan baffling. I know i need a gto or ls1 oil pan to fit a car.
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Originally Posted by Ls7colorado
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...oducts_id=8670

From what ive read on here that is a AWESOME cam AND spring kit for what your trying to do since the lobes arent too aggressive. it will rev passed 7000 but be a little easier on the valve train than most. Add a trunion kit and some pushrods and your good to go.
Some of the new summit cams are supposed to be easier on the valve-train too but I would ask them about that.
And of course you can call up any of the big cam manufactures and spend some dough on what they recommend if you got it.
That cam sounds nice, little pricey but hey its racing. Does a cam like that make the engine more reliable or just less noisy? Also could someone explan correct oil pan baffling.. i thought oil pans come as a bolt on affair.
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That price is with cam AND springs
and yes some cams will make the valvetrain more reliable without spending a fortune on high parts
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If you think that's pricey you need to find a different hobby...like raising gold fish.
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10
If you think that's pricey you need to find a different hobby...like raising gold fish.

Didnt realize it came with springs...plus gold fish die to easy. Lol
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I'm not sure I'd use the ASA cam in a 4.8. I have a similarly sized cam in my 4.8 and its ALL top-end.
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
I'm not sure I'd use the ASA cam in a 4.8. I have a similarly sized cam in my 4.8 and its ALL top-end.
Right, but this going in a road course car that’s 2400lbs with 3.90 gears. He will want his power above 5000. Even on the street it will be fine, and make 3x the torque of the factory rotory engine lol
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Originally Posted by Ls7colorado
Right, but this going in a road course car that’s 2400lbs with 3.90 gears. He will want his power above 5000. Even on the street it will be fine, and make 3x the torque of the factory rotory engine lol
Just to add some more info... the track im building the car for is VIR Virginia international raceway.. its a 3 mile track with 2 long straights 18 turns.. some cars get up to 180 mph on one of those straights!
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Originally Posted by Ls7colorado
Right, but this going in a road course car that’s 2400lbs with 3.90 gears. He will want his power above 5000. Even on the street it will be fine, and make 3x the torque of the factory rotory engine lol
It'll probably be OK then. Mine also weighs 2400 lbs. Power comes in hard up top but its a little lazy down low.
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So should i go with some 243 heads milled?
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No, keep the stock heads. Mill those and/or run a thinner head gasket. Get compression up over 10:1.
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
No, keep the stock heads. Mill those and/or run a thinner head gasket. Get compression up over 10:1.
Cool, what type of valve train upgrades would you recommend.. i know the older gen 3's have issues with rockers. Ticking sound..etc this engine will be upper rpm all the time so should i upgrade rod bolts?
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For the amount of time it will be at higher RPM, you'll want some stability.

I'd do rocker trunions (a couple of types to choose from), double springs with shims, hardened pushrods.
I think I would do gen 4 rods/pistons before I would go through the mess of rod bolts in gen 3 rods.
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What year is the 4.8?
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Originally Posted by Ls7colorado
What year is the 4.8?
Its a 2003 4.8 with the drive by wire TB.
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He said 2003 in another post somewhere.
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
Mill the stock heads at least .025"
Pick a camshaft with a 21x/22x intake duration and a 22x exhaust duration, 112-115 LSA and it'll rev to 7k on a 4.8.
Springs will depend on camshaft choice. For road racing, it might be worth it to skip straight to a double spring setup with shims if your cam has less than .600 lift.
After the cam/mill, make sure your pushrods are the correct length.
Dry sump not needed with the right oil pan baffling setup.

Easy 350-370whp 4.8.
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No, keep the stock heads. Mill those and/or run a thinner head gasket. Get compression up over 10:1.
I agree with JoeNova id do intake duration between 216 to 219 and exhaust high 22x to 230 and keep the old 862/706 heads but use a 1.95 intake 1.57 exhaust valves, good VJ and bowl blend,and a little chamber rework at a minimum.


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