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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Same here. I am 20 miles away from any E85 supply. And on a big cube motor, I'd lose three gallons just driving round trip to the gas station... but that's the advise I get most often.

Have you thought maybe to just order boostane? 1-oz per gallon would be more than enough, gets to to 98, and would be easier on you than about anything else you could try. I hated being stuck with 91 in AZ. in SC, with 93 everywhere, i didn't realize how big a difference it makes, but those two AKI points really make a difference.

Edit -- back to your cam question, i reread the entire thread, and i agree WS6Store cam is a pretty good match. Advance wasn't listed, and you may want to install on a 110-112 centerline to help with the torque when the turbo is idle.

yes I use boostane.
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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Boostane played a part in toasting his motor. He should be looking at WMI instead.

I think it’s more my fault. The boostane I added was opened over a year ago and so I think it just went bad. I didn’t add any more timing however. It’s almost like it lowered my octane because I didn’t have any knock before I put it in.
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Originally Posted by Kfxguy
I think it’s more my fault. The boostane I added was opened over a year ago and so I think it just went bad. I didn’t add any more timing however. It’s almost like it lowered my octane because I didn’t have any knock before I put it in.
Ok its your fault I only blame you for not reading the plugs.
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Originally Posted by Kfxguy
People always try to push e85 on someone even when it’s not easily obtainable. Sorry, if I can’t easily get something, I’m absolutely most definitely not going to build something that relies on it. That’s dumb, and trying to convince people they need to do what you do is dumb too. If I had a race car then I would consider it. I don’t have a race car. I don’t want to be dependent on something that’s screwed around here. And buying it by the drum or ordering it? Your juicing right? Lmao.
Is what it is.. some people try harder to go faster and some don't. Like I said if you can't get it so be it, but if you had a flex fuel sensor and passed somewhere that has it then you could enjoy using it. In a sense your dependent on 93 octane right? If you drive your car to somewhere that only has 91 are you going to rip around on the same tune?

Either way I know plenty of people that get drums of fuel shipped to them, and others that refill jugs when they pass a station and fill it up. Tons of people have cans of M1 sitting in their garage for meth kits. At any given time I have a spare 25gal of fuel in my garage, I didn't think that was terribly uncommon. I certainly don't have a race car by any means.
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Originally Posted by Kfxguy
I don’t want to be dependent on something
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yes I use boostane.
Spends money on overpriced additives but hates on $2 gal fuel that actually works. Makes plenty of sense
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No 93 or E is reason enough not to live there. Add the street and even race track sound ordinances and its a wrap.
Deciding state of residence on fuel type availability is REALLY narrow minded. But that's you....
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Let's really dissect what we can do to fix this. The Ghost cam has a -1 I/O, 43 I/C, 55 E/O, -2 E/C for -3 overlap. If we went with a -6.5 I/O, 39.5 I/C, 50 E/O and -4 E/C, the result would be a 213/226 115 +2 for -10.5 degrees overlap. The earlier intake closing is going to do a lot for efficiency at lower and mid range rpm....meaning less throttle opening to maintain cruise. We're opening the exhaust a little later...which will keep residual pressure on the piston longer for better mpg.

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Originally Posted by G Atsma
Deciding state of residence on fuel type availability is REALLY narrow minded. But that's you....
Considering how involved many of us are in a hobby reliant on certain fuels for the performance we desire, maybe not that narrow minded. But you are correct in that I wouldn't base location solely on fuel type availability. Once I factor in tax rates, gun rights, real estate prices, modified vehicle, emissions, and exhaust laws, wildfires, earthquakes, extreme homelessness and poverty rates, state debt, sanctuary cities, there are numerous factors that help decide which states I don’t want to claim residence in.
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Considering how involved many of us are in a hobby reliant on certain fuels for the performance we desire, maybe not that narrow minded. But you are correct in that I wouldn't base location solely on fuel type availability. Once I factor in tax rates, gun rights, real estate prices, modified vehicle, emissions, and exhaust laws, wildfires, earthquakes, extreme homelessness and poverty rates, state debt, sanctuary cities, there are numerous factors that help decide which states I don’t want to claim residence in.
I guess the difference here is whether you are deciding on a state to move INTO, or deciding to move OUT of the state you've lived in all your life.
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Spends money on overpriced additives but hates on $2 gal fuel that actually works. Makes plenty of sense
keeps trying to push a fuel on me that is only available at one gas station 45 minutes from my house. Now that makes plenty of sense.
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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Summitracing
Let's really dissect what we can do to fix this. The Ghost cam has a -1 I/O, 43 I/C, 55 E/O, -2 E/C for -3 overlap. If we went with a -6.5 I/O, 39.5 I/C, 50 E/O and -4 E/C, the result would be a 213/226 115 +2 for -10.5 degrees overlap. The earlier intake closing is going to do a lot for efficiency at lower and mid range rpm....meaning less throttle opening to maintain cruise. We're opening the exhaust a little later...which will keep residual pressure on the piston longer for better mpg.

Looking for short seat timing and .600 lift, we have some lobes in mind that fit the bill nicely to do a nice custom. Just PM, and we'll make the arrangements. If you want to tweak one of the events, that's not a problem, but we'd recommend accepting the results of the Summit Cam timing calculator rather than try muddy the waters by thinking in terms of Lobe separation, duration, or advance.

I like your thinking....
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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
I guess the difference here is whether you are deciding on a state to move INTO, or deciding to move OUT of the state you've lived in all your life.

that's not even an option for me. It would be easier for me to just say screw it, I don’t need a fast car that bad....I promise.

let me see how this would play out.

me: babe, kids....I’m thinking about moving.

wife/kids: where to?

me: o a state where e85 is readily available.

wife/kids: what is that?

me: a fuel for my car that allows me to run more timing and make about 50-70 more HP.

wife/kids: (you fill in the blanks).


yea. That sounds about as stupid as someone on here suggesting this asinine idea. People. Lol.
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It would be easier for me to just say screw it, I don’t need a fast car that bad....I promise.
You dont have a fast car so figured you made that choice early on
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Originally Posted by Kfxguy
keeps trying to push a fuel on me that is only available at one gas station 45 minutes from my house. Now that makes plenty of sense.
Started more as responding to the other guy who said ethanol fuels weren't good. Could care less if you run it or not, you dont make enough power to really take advantage of it anyway.
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You dont have a fast car so figured you made that choice early on
true. And you have a race car. So what.
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It was only a matter of time before we reached the racecar vs streetcar convo....we're there
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Originally Posted by Kfxguy
true. And you have a race car. So what.
Pretty shitty race car being on street tires with full interior, comfy seats, stock engine and trans and only runs on pump gas.

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It was only a matter of time before we reached the racecar vs streetcar convo....we're there
I have no duck in that conversation, I'm stuck with slow street cars! I don't know what even qualifies as a race car, never had one and don't want one.
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I have no duck in that conversation, I'm stuck with slow street cars! I don't know what even qualifies as a race car, never had one and don't want one.
Everybody has a different threshold. Mine just happens to be much lower for the crossover to racecar than many.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Everybody has a different threshold. Mine just happens to be much lower for the crossover to racecar than many.
What's the definition of street car or race car? What exactly crosses the line? Treadwear rating? Power windows? Bluetooth? Cruise for 8 hours? I don't have any idea what makes a race car a race car other then actually being a race car of which most aren't on the street or even streetable.
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What's the definition of street car or race car? What exactly crosses the line? Treadwear rating? Power windows? Bluetooth? Cruise for 8 hours? I don't have any idea what makes a race car a race car other then actually being a race car of which most aren't on the street or even streetable.
like I said everyone has a different threshold. To me if you cage the car, don't have AC, trailer the car to the track, need special fuel you can't get at the pump, etc., That's racecar stuff. Other people say as long as it's licensed and insured with working lights it's a streetcar.
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