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Old Jun 30, 2020 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Labsforever
most dome pistons are a solid dome so they end up heavy. Approximately half of that extra weight can be milled off the underside in a na engine. Piston dish volume is limited to an extent by the compression height needed so we are back to a compromise between the two in my book
perhaps some custom CNC work in a cross hatch pattern on the underside of the dome to retain cooling oil and pull some weight may be in order... even some easy dimpling may help here.
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
What I tried to do on mine was preserve as much of the chamber as possible. Ended up with a net 1.3cc dome (AFTER valve reliefs figured in), so it's like a little flat "mesa" on top of the piston. but that got me 12.7. Not 14. And it did make the pistons heavier. I noticed that while shopping. I could get dished pistons in the 450g range all day long, but domes were in the 490-500g range all day long.

Then heftier pistons require beefier rods, and it spirals.

What I have in my head for a future build is sort of like this. Another big bore motor. Stroke as yet undetermined. Something based off the LSR casting, starting at 52cc and then running a 5cc dish to get compression into the 14-15 range. Seems like the best way to do it. Or even more extreme, a C5R bare casting in the right hands with a 30cc chamber, no milling, but then needing a 20cc dish to get into the 16:1 range.

But it's diminishing returns, and boost becomes much easier, so I see your point for sure.
Yes, I know what you mean about weights of pistons with domes, I looked high and low for a lighter piston for this LS3 build I finishing up now. I ended up using a Mahle 2cc dome piston that weighs a whopping 492 grams but I’m chasing high 11.5 ish compression and it’s not that easy to do with a flat top with stock stroke, it would require a tiny combustion chamber. My other alternate route and I don’t know why I didn’t go this way was to use a 6.300 626 gram rod and a JE 418gram 3cc dome 416 piston, bob weights might have been in the high 1600’s. With a 3cc dome 11.75 static would be easy with a barely milled LS3 head. As it turns out I’ll have 11.5-11.65 with 65-66cc head and still have mid-high 1700’s bob weights using 610 gram rod.
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