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Old Feb 2, 2023 | 11:13 PM
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Default Rocker arm ratio

As the title says rocker arm ratio.
the factory rocker arms arm 1.7 and cams are ground to suit 1.7 ratio rockers and all figger quoted on cam cards are for 1.7 ratio

But let's say you already have a cam but want to go slightly bigger and you are already looking at new rockers anyway.

The cheap option is to get a rocker arm with a different ratio.
Let's look at 1.7 to 1.75 ratio rockers.
​Lets say your cam is 230 238@50 and 614 621 lift.
Simply divide the figgers by 1.7 then multiply by 1.75 to get you new duration and lift fingers.
Also note that inlet valve open and close along with exhaust valve open close events will happen earlier and later now because of the change in rocker arm ratio.
this is a old school trick to gain slightly larger cam in restricted racing classes for a few extra hp and rpm.
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So 614 lift becomes 632
621 becomes 639
Your duration will go from 230 to 236 and so on.
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Old Feb 3, 2023 | 05:03 AM
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Lift will change, but duration will stay the same. However, the area under the curve will get larger. This is because duration is measured at the lifter/cam interface, not at the rocker tip. Valve accelerations will increase, and depending on valvetrain setup, the engine may enter valve float sooner. The overlap triangle will increase, making the engine behave like you installed a cam with a tighter LSA. All of which is just to add to what you're saying, that yes, an increase in rocker ratio can mimic the effect of installing a larger cam.
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Old Feb 3, 2023 | 08:08 AM
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You might have clearance issues with the valve covers.
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Old Feb 3, 2023 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Shtstr
So 614 lift becomes 632
621 becomes 639
Your duration will go from 230 to 236 and so on.
Your duration will not change. However, for lack of a better term, I like to say your effective duration will. To elaborate, you now have some duration from .615" lift to .632", and back down to .615". In other words, you now have duration in an area you didn't have any before, because lift stopped at .614". Hope this makes some sense, and this is the only way I know to describe it. But, as posted, your actual duration from .050" lift opening, to .050" lift closing, will not change.
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This has been discussed here on Tech a few times in the past, and it’s always a relevant discussion no matter when it comes up. Seat to seat duration, which is the total duration, doesn’t change by changing rocker ratio. Now an increase in ratio, from 1.5 to 1.6 will add about 2ish degrees due to an increase in speed, throughout the lift cycle. So, while the only way you can add duration to a lift cycle is by adding metal to a cam lobe, the under the curve duration, or effective duration, or seen duration, can be altered by rocker ratio, due to the increase in ratio adding speed to the valve throughout the cycle. An increase in rocker ratio will also be harder on valve springs do to obviously adding lift, but also by increasing the speed of the valves opening and closing rates.
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
Now an increase in ratio, from 1.5 to 1.6 will add about 2ish degrees due to an increase in speed, throughout the lift cycle.
So my 227/232 is really closer to 229/234, due to the 1.8 rockers I’m running. Interesting…
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So my 227/232 is really closer to 229/234, due to the 1.8 rockers I’m running. Interesting…
it will act like a bigger cam yes.
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