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Old 09-14-2023, 05:20 PM
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I have a ‘98 silverado and a 117k miles lq4 i want to reach 500 horses to the wheel with no forced induction is it possible? currently on 317 heads, goimg eaton try trac with 4.10 gears, would my ‘98 4l60e bolt up to the lq4? mostly want to know how can i get to 500rwhp, basically recommendations to H/C/I parts and boosting compression. thanks
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Originally Posted by lsxchupadita
I have a ‘98 silverado and a 117k miles lq4 i want to reach 500 horses to the wheel with no forced induction is it possible?
What's plan B?
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Originally Posted by QwkTrip
What's plan B?
never really had a plan b in mind what’s your suggestion
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How much truck are we talking about here? There are trucks.... Trucks.... and TRUCKS. Size, weight, tires, etc.
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How much truck are we talking about here? There are trucks.... Trucks.... and TRUCKS. Size, weight, tires, etc.
well i plan to run 17/18s in the front 15s in the back unsure of tire size yet could also use help there. for the most part i want to be able to street/drag it digs and 20 rolls
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500 whp is possible but you will need some serious heads with some compression along with a good size cam and matching intake. Look at Holdeners 600 fwhp recipes on youtube to get an idea of whats needed. At that power level your 4l60 will check out in short order unless its built to handle it.
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LQ4 is the wrong core to start out with, if you want to avoid "rebuilding". Get a LQ9 instead.

That said, 500 HP at the wheels, is gonna take 625 - 650 at the crank. So let's go back a step: wht do you really want your truck to DO? Are you looking for some ET (HP doesn't give you that), autocross (HP is almost your enemy past a point), or WHAT? Where did that magic number come from? Are you going dyno racing with your buddies, or WHAT?
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Originally Posted by RB04Av
LQ4 is the wrong core to start out with, if you want to avoid "rebuilding". Get a LQ9 instead.

That said, 500 HP at the wheels, is gonna take 625 - 650 at the crank. So let's go back a step: wht do you really want your truck to DO? Are you looking for some ET (HP doesn't give you that), autocross (HP is almost your enemy past a point), or WHAT? Where did that magic number come from? Are you going dyno racing with your buddies, or WHAT?
The goal is to have a fast 20-100mph and a fast 1/8,1/4 time and also still be able to use the truck on the street, if power adder must be used then id have to look into that as well
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a fast 20-100mph and a fast 1/8,1/4 time and also still be able to use the truck on the street
What are your definitions of "fast" each of those things? (in numbers: seconds or mph)

What is your definition of "use ... on the street"? (long highway trips, daily commute, occasional fine-weather Sunday afternoons, ???)
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Originally Posted by RB04Av
What are your definitions of "fast" each of those things? (in numbers: seconds or mph)

What is your definition of "use ... on the street"? (long highway trips, daily commute, occasional fine-weather Sunday afternoons, ???)
fast in seconds, and occasionally use it in fine weather, not so much of a daily or long trips
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fast in seconds
OK... we're getting closer... not quite there yet though...

HOW MANY seconds? Which is more important, the 1/8 or the 1/4?
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Originally Posted by lsxchupadita
fast in seconds, and occasionally use it in fine weather, not so much of a daily or long trips
Put the beer down and answer the gentleman in NUMBERS AND FACTS.
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Originally Posted by RB04Av
OK... we're getting closer... not quite there yet though...

HOW MANY seconds? Which is more important, the 1/8 or the 1/4?
either or to be honest, to make things easier i’ll be happy with whatever my lq4 can push HCI and full bolt ons, what’s the biggest cam paired with a lsxrt intake i can run on the 317 heads i don’t mind sending them for porting, or should i switch heads, i’ll be satisfied with over 400 to the wheels, wait till it blows then boost
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Originally Posted by RB04Av
OK... we're getting closer... not quite there yet though...

HOW MANY seconds? Which is more important, the 1/8 or the 1/4?
don’t really have set numbers but i do rather race 1/8 miles since it’s basically a full weight 1998 silverado single cab
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Some people cannot be helped. They're immune. Must have taken a vaccine for that somehow.
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Originally Posted by RB04Av
Some people cannot be helped. They're immune. Must have taken a vaccine for that somehow.
your a great helper, probably in your menopausal years i don’t blame you…
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Originally Posted by lsxchupadita
your a great helper, probably in your menopausal years i don’t blame you…
I don't understand what is so hard to understand about the question. What do you want? A 10 second 1/4 mile truck? A mid to high 6 second 1/8 mile? Do you want it to go 120 in the 1/4? Do you want it to go 100-105 in the 1/8? Give us something, otherwise we all know the real answer, which is that you don't know what you want. Even after we get passed this interrogation, and down to what it will take motor wise to get there, you will be a stickler on what you want to do and more than likely just be an askhole and not take anyones advice.

So, my recommendation, put an On 3 turbo kit on it, make 600 some whp out of it easily. Beef up the trans and suspension and have fun with it.
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Originally Posted by Dbunke
500 whp is possible but you will need some serious heads with some compression along with a good size cam and matching intake. Look at Holdeners 600 fwhp recipes on youtube to get an idea of whats needed. At that power level your 4l60 will check out in short order unless its built to handle it.
I agree on the 4L60E, but ONLY because of the weight of the truck. My experience with the 4L60E has been great, though a bit unusual. Its in a 3,250lb C5 Corvette. It's endured 2 different, 600+fwhp LS7 427s. Almost 140,000 miles on it, changed fluid/filter once. 427 powered for last 80,000 miles. Two important things my tuner did that he says helped it live:
1:Raised, didnt remove, TM from stock to 1,000lb/ft.
2: Recommended NOT installing a shift kit.
Did I mention a 3,200 stall Yank converter has been in there for 80,000 miles, too?
Tuner obviously knew what he was doing. But it would never live long in a 4,500lb-5,000lb truck....
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Originally Posted by lsxchupadita
your a great helper, probably in your menopausal years i don’t blame you…
You're helping even less by not answering the important questions with meaningful answers.
So cut the attitude and give some good info or just leave.
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Originally Posted by 02EBC5Z06
I don't understand what is so hard to understand about the question. What do you want? A 10 second 1/4 mile truck? A mid to high 6 second 1/8 mile? Do you want it to go 120 in the 1/4? Do you want it to go 100-105 in the 1/8? Give us something, otherwise we all know the real answer, which is that you don't know what you want. Even after we get passed this interrogation, and down to what it will take motor wise to get there, you will be a stickler on what you want to do and more than likely just be an askhole and not take anyones advice.

So, my recommendation, put an On 3 turbo kit on it, make 600 some whp out of it easily. Beef up the trans and suspension and have fun with it.
don’t want anything too crazy just the best heads cam intake recommended until i’m ready for boost even if 500hp isn’t accomplished, at this point just looking to do HCI and full bolt ons, really just need help selecting heads and cam not really worried about track times since it is still a full weight single cab i would boost after i get a built trans


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