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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 03:10 PM
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Has anyone ever come across a reluctor wheel that's neutral balanced? I'm adapting an 0411 setup to run my 408W and since the engine is already balanced, I need the wheel to be neutral. Wanted to see if anyone knew of a place that can make them already like this, otherwise Ill have to order one and just have my machinist balance it somehow.
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 03:42 PM
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I believe all GM reluctor wheels (58x and 24x) are balanced as they come.
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 06:45 PM
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Yea same as I was thinking, given how you can buy one, install it on a Crank in the correct place and go with it. Never seen anything about having to balance a Crank after.
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 06:51 PM
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I would think it's made just like a sbf flywheel or flexplate. Those are external balance engines and the balance weight is on the balancer hub and flywheel. You can buy those and replace them without having to re-balance also. If you were to internally balance it, however, you'd have to change these parts with neutral balance ones. I'm assuming the reluctor wheel is also like this.
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Originally Posted by LS408W
I would think it's made just like a sbf flywheel or flexplate. Those are external balance engines and the balance weight is on the balancer hub and flywheel. You can buy those and replace them without having to re-balance also. If you were to internally balance it, however, you'd have to change these parts with neutral balance ones. I'm assuming the reluctor wheel is also like this.
Like I said....
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
Like I said....
Im confused by your comment. Are you saying that its already neutral balanced for any application outside of an LS engine?
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I know that if you remove the wheel from a balanced assembly to go with a front mounted crank trigger assembly, the assembly requires a little Mallory to re-balance. The reluctors are acting like a counterweight in a way. The rings aren’t neutral balanced but are weighted to fit on the crank in a certain spot. Take a look at one. They are lightened on one side with holes.
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 09:11 PM
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OOOOOPPSSS-
I always ***-U-MEd the reluctors were a balanced part
My bad!
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I know that if you remove the wheel from a balanced assembly to go with a front mounted crank trigger assembly, the assembly requires a little Mallory to re-balance. The reluctors are acting like a counterweight in a way. The rings arent neutral balanced but are weighted to fit on the crank in a certain spot. Take a look at one. They are lightened on one side with holes.
This was my thought as well, which is why I'm looking for a neutral balance one if it exists. I have everything ready on my windsor to accept the reluctor wheel but wanted to see about this first. Im guessing ill have to get one and have it balanced.
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Originally Posted by LS408W
This was my thought as well, which is why I'm looking for a neutral balance one if it exists. I have everything ready on my windsor to accept the reluctor wheel but wanted to see about this first. Im guessing ill have to get one and have it balanced.
It wouldnt take much to balance one. Have you considered an external trigger setup? Is this for ignition or something else?
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Old Oct 23, 2024 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
It wouldnt take much to balance one. Have you considered an external trigger setup? Is this for ignition or something else?
I'm using this as an external trigger on my engine. I'm running a ford windsor engine with an 0411 pcm from an 02 firebird.
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Originally Posted by LS408W
I'm using this as an external trigger on my engine. I'm running a ford windsor engine with an 0411 pcm from an 02 firebird.
Look at the torqhead setups they make to use LS computers on LT1 base cars. They add the reluctor behind the balancer on the front of the engine. This may be an option for you. You might could contact them and buy the extension harness for that.
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Old Oct 23, 2024 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by zzracer
Look at the torqhead setups they make to use LS computers on LT1 base cars. They add the reluctor behind the balancer on the front of the engine. This may be an option for you. You might could contact them and buy the extension harness for that.
I'll check that out.
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