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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 12:16 PM
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Hey yall thanks for any help in advance but here goes it. I have a 06 silverado I swapped a LS1 into about 6 months ago nothing crazy a mild cam and ported heads with a proper tune. But recently the torque converter took a **** so I decided to just pull the motor ta make it easy aswell upgrade some things on the motor. I got a bigger TSP cam and new pushrods with proper springs. Welp I got the motor back in and it’ll start than die after 1-3 seconds. My first thought was timing so I toot everything apart to verify and it’s in time. Since than I’ve tested to ensure proper fuel pressure, aswell as spark and both are good. Needless to say I’m atta loss and looking for some better insight.
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Needs a Tune for the bigger Cam.

That simple.
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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
Needs a Tune for the bigger Cam.

That simple.
even off the rip like that? Typically they’ll fire and adjust what they can to run. I’ve swapped bigger cams into trucks that came in with no previous work and they ran… maybe not proper but ran.
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Some do, some won't. If you're able to feather the gas and it stays running I'm leaning towards the tune.
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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
Some do, some won't. If you're able to feather the gas and it stays running I'm leaning towards the tune.

yeah that’s what I first thought aswell but it legit won’t stay running😭 runs for the 1-3 seconds and dies no matter what, with or without throttle.
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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 01:46 PM
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if you have the ability to tune it, just increase the entire idle table by 300 rpm and up the base running airflow table by 50%. i've used that formula a bunch of times to get a cam'd engine to at least fire off and make sure its hitting on all 8.

note: i am NOT saying its properly tuned after that. at all. just that it should start and idle, and then of course you will need to make further adjustments to the fueling and timing to dial it in.
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See if the icon that looks like a lock is flashing on the instrument cluster after it dies and before you rotate the key to off. Scan pcm and see if it has any theft deterrent codes stored.
It would be unusual but things work till they don't!
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Originally Posted by bobcratch
if you have the ability to tune it, just increase the entire idle table by 300 rpm and up the base running airflow table by 50%. i've used that formula a bunch of times to get a cam'd engine to at least fire off and make sure its hitting on all 8.

note: i am NOT saying its properly tuned after that. at all. just that it should start and idle, and then of course you will need to make further adjustments to the fueling and timing to dial it in.


all righty I’ll pull up the logs and adjust some
stuff. Also gunna ensure VATs are turned off to ensure that’s not it.
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Per the first post are you running a LS1 DBC throttle body? If so you can adjust the throttle blade stop to open up the blade a bit. I've done this on my LS swaps with DBC throttle bodies.
Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by 01WS6/tamu
See if the icon that looks like a lock is flashing on the instrument cluster after it dies and before you rotate the key to off. Scan pcm and see if it has any theft deterrent codes stored.
It would be unusual but things work till they don't!
Yeah, this sounds like VATS got tripped.
Like OP, I've also put bigger cams in engines with a factory tune, and they still started and ran.
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Originally Posted by LS1 TJ
Per the first post are you running a LS1 DBC throttle body? If so you can adjust the throttle blade stop to open up the blade a bit. I've done this on my LS swaps with DBC throttle bodies.
Just a thought.
Probably the LS1 as a Longblock with the Truck Intake and DBW Throttle Body.
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Originally Posted by LS1 TJ
Per the first post are you running a LS1 DBC throttle body? If so you can adjust the throttle blade stop to open up the blade a bit. I've done this on my LS swaps with DBC throttle bodies.
Just a thought.
, I wish lol its got the truck intake
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Originally Posted by dixiebandit69
Yeah, this sounds like VATS got tripped.
Like OP, I've also put bigger cams in engines with a factory tune, and they still started and ran.

yup gunna go through the tune tmr with my tuner, didn’t have time to tonight
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I had similar problem , was crank angle sensor
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I had exact same problem and cam sensor wires got messed up
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Needs some tuning.
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Old Feb 7, 2025 | 07:33 PM
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Update for all I’m starting to think something’s up with the heads… went over my tune again and everything is right even Re-Wrote it to ensure it wasn’t corrupted. Same effect starts for a second or few and dies no matter. Also when it doesn’t start it will randomly pop and when you let off it’ll idk how to put it other than this. It’ll quief? Maybe valves or pushrods are sticking?only reason I’m really questioning the heads is when the motor was originally put it it was retarded 3 degrees. Needless to say valves and push rods were took out in that case. Heads were rebuilt and the truck ran. So could the valve guides and pushrod holes be fucked up enough to not allow it to run? Hope that all made sense.
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Queef...

So what part of the tune are you calling "right"?

I don't think it's the Heads doing this. Sounds like it's super rich and loading up.
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Old Feb 7, 2025 | 08:12 PM
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So what part of the tune are you calling "right"?

I don't think it's the Heads doing this. Sounds like it's super rich and loading up.
Vats are off for one but I don’t play tuner that ain’t me lol but according to my tuner he said everything looks fine, airflow table, spark and the fueling he said was all proper

and yes queef 😭
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So this going to sound bubba to the max. Back to my idea the throttle blade isn't opening enough to let it run. Again super bubba but take a piece of round wire maybe a 1/16" to 1/8" diameter making it long enough to prop the throttle blade open a bit. Again make it long enough so you can bring out of the throttle body so it doesn't get sucked into the engine and fasten it to something. Start the engine and see if it helps.
Replacing the crank sensor typically means the exhaust manifold has to come off.
As said above I'm not buying into the heads being an issue. Pull the valve covers and see if everything is moving up and down as it should as you crank it with the plugs out.
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