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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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hi,
i'm looking at getting a better cam for a current setup on a car i am buying next month.
Car is a '02 Firehawk. Its a friends car.
-He has stage 1 cnc-ed LS6 heads that where millied .030.
-TR 220 cam
-slp long tubes / oryp
-gmmg chambered exhaust
-asp pulleys
-factory ls6 intake
-and 373 gears in back
The car dynoed right at 400hp and like 389 tq.

Not too bad, but there is more to be made and i like the lope on 112's, or 113 lsa cams.
Car is going to be a daily driver, and will have a tnt 100 shot on it also.
I want a cam that will throw the power in the 420 to 430 area, and one that would be nice for the bottle also.

Any suggestions?
thanks , and i hope that you guys dont hate these kind of posts lol
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224 224 on a 112 or 114 for the bottle
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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224 224 on a 112 or 114 for the bottle
any particular reason?
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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TSP 231/237 loves the 100 shot, has a very agressive sound, and is very streetable with a decent tune, but if it's an auto, stick with the 114 lsa, or it can be a PITA on the street.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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http://www.vincihighperformance.com/...%20LS1%202.htm

i would look into the 047 or if you want an even more agressive cam and sound, then the 055
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 12:02 AM
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definitely look into a cam with a bigger exhaust duration than intake. i hear single pattern cams work well, but a cam with more exhaust than intake is definitely ideal for sprayin. someone correct me if im wrong
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Clipper
TSP 231/237 loves the 100 shot, has a very agressive sound, and is very streetable with a decent tune, but if it's an auto, stick with the 114 lsa, or it can be a PITA on the street.
I have heard great things about that cam, but will it work fine with the heads being milled .030? Isnt that too much lift for the heads or no? 112 would be perfect. The Hawk is a M6. I gotta bang some gears ; )
ANyone running Ls6 heads with that cam?
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:32 AM
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You are going to have the check the P/C for any cam. The heads are mill a lot and any higher lift cam with cause you a lot of head aces.
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i have a 224/228 114 lsa .563 lift cam im thinking about selling

PM me an offer if you are interested. comp cams. i bought this so i could runa 125 shot on top of a bolt on, and cammed car...

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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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i am in the process of picking up a brand new 231/237, and i plan to spray her. i've heard great things about that cam and spray, and we all know ls1's love spray to begin with. its a 112, it lopes mad crazy(not like a t-rex or a g5x3) but its still got a nice sound to it. can be tuned very nicely, and will put you right at the numbers you're looking at, people w/s2 ls6 heads are looking at 440rwhp+ w/this cam. i'm gonna use the new patriot dual gold valve springs btw.
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by goober35
You are going to have the check the P/C for any cam. The heads are mill a lot and any higher lift cam with cause you a lot of head aces.

what is the p/c ?
So any higher lift cam will cause a lot of headaches but this one wont? Are you saying that it would work fine?
'confused here lol'
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cyphur_traq
i am in the process of picking up a brand new 231/237, and i plan to spray her. i've heard great things about that cam and spray, and we all know ls1's love spray to begin with. its a 112, it lopes mad crazy(not like a t-rex or a g5x3) but its still got a nice sound to it. can be tuned very nicely, and will put you right at the numbers you're looking at, people w/s2 ls6 heads are looking at 440rwhp+ w/this cam. i'm gonna use the new patriot dual gold valve springs btw.
This sounds very very nice

slik98z sorry i dont like the "getty up" horse running sounds of the cam's on a 114 ...no offense to people that run em though some of them do very well just my personal perfernce
Thanks though !
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 10:59 AM
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Anyone ever run a lingenfilter cam??
this one in particular or simular?

LPE 218/229 at .050, .560/.560 lift on a 113
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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Is the car a 6 speed??? I would get all the info on the heads and get a hold of someone who builds custom camshafts.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 12:47 PM
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definatly chech PTV (piston to valve) clearance. your heads are milled a lot, I run the T-rex with LS6 stage 2 heads but their not milled any
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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tsp 231/237 112 would make good power w/ that setup
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by HartAttack
Anyone ever run a lingenfilter cam??
this one in particular or simular?

LPE 218/229 at .050, .560/.560 lift on a 113
That is a Turbo cam.

If you do not want to go higher than 100 shot N2O, then do not let the nitrous decide what cam you need. You can spray ANY cam up to 150 shot, all results being within minimal differences.
You only need bigger exhaust duration split if you go higher than 150.

I would recommend the MTI X1 cam. Really good performer N/A and kicks *** on small nitrous shots.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 05:16 PM
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i had the c1 222/222 hammer cam w/mac headers ect 11.8 in the 1/4mi. i went to the g5x2 cam,kook headers and a ported th-body.i went 11.3's in the 1/4th after the swap.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mike c.
i had the c1 222/222 hammer cam w/mac headers ect 11.8 in the 1/4mi. i went to the g5x2 cam,kook headers and a ported th-body.i went 11.3's in the 1/4th after the swap.
Who makes the g5x2 cam?
That a good et drop, but i'm more interested in MPH... what was the difference between the two cams for you??
Are you running ls6 heads??
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
That is a Turbo cam.

If you do not want to go higher than 100 shot N2O, then do not let the nitrous decide what cam you need. You can spray ANY cam up to 150 shot, all results being within minimal differences.
You only need bigger exhaust duration split if you go higher than 150.

I would recommend the MTI X1 cam. Really good performer N/A and kicks *** on small nitrous shots.
That LPE cam was in a car that is said to be the fastest heads/cam setup in the U.S. It was comboed with the Ls6 heads that were ported by LPE...the car ran consistant 10.50's at 128! THats wild.... what makes you say that its a turbo cam ??

Alright the TR 224/227 reverse split cam from a graph i saw seemed to be alittle more potent than the TR 224 112, and it said that its a nitrous cam.... how do yall fell about that?
I will look into the MTI X1. thanks
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