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Old 08-17-2004, 08:05 AM
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For 550 to 600 rwhp there are cheaper ways to get there. Unless you just want to say "I have C5R parts" why? I admit if I had the money I would go all C5R and custom parts but since I don't I can't see why. If you got the money go for it but please, post pics of the build!
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C5R bare heads cost @ GM Parts Direct. This is a cost for each:

GM PART # 12480090
CATEGORY: Engine Cylinder Head
GM LIST: $1,676.18
OUR PRICE: $1,173.33
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Originally Posted by steve-d
C5R bare heads cost @ GM Parts Direct. This is a cost for each:

GM PART # 12480090
CATEGORY: Engine Cylinder Head
GM LIST: $1,676.18
OUR PRICE: $1,173.33
And knowing GM Parts Direct shipping will cost another $1100 per...
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That would make more sense to me.
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Originally Posted by Thunder175
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Originally Posted by LMEengines
Hello Quickin,
I've researched this setup for one of my customers in the past. We could build you a setup that would work great. Basically it would consist of C5R heads setup for a Hyd. roller cam, dished pistons to lower the compression to 11.5. This would be a killer setup for the street. RWHP would depend on how big of a cam you could live with. But I would estimate the RWHP thru a 6-speed to be in the 550 to 600 range.
As far the price of the heads I can do a set of C5R heads for you for around 6,500. If you are interested give us a call.
How much spray will it handle? 250 shot?
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You can either do a Kinsler setup, or one of the 8tb setups from Australia. You can keep the stock computer and convert it to a Speed Density setup. There are several Aussie's playing with C5R head setups.

Kurt Urban (427) from Wheel to Wheel has done numerous C5R head projects he has basically stated a C5R head is useless unless its on a big bore motor. But if you go 427, I think you can make big power. The benefit of an 225 AFR is it will work with a stock manifold. The C5R requires something custom, but if you tune runner length, etc... I think you could make crazy power.

You might contact Kurt for more info.
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Originally Posted by J-Rod
You can either do a Kinsler setup, or one of the 8tb setups from Australia. You can keep the stock computer and convert it to a Speed Density setup. There are several Aussie's playing with C5R head setups.

Kurt Urban (427) from Wheel to Wheel has done numerous C5R head projects he has basically stated a C5R head is useless unless its on a big bore motor. But if you go 427, I think you can make big power. The benefit of an 225 AFR is it will work with a stock manifold. The C5R requires something custom, but if you tune runner length, etc... I think you could make crazy power.

You might contact Kurt for more info.
MORE PERFORMANCE has a 725 FWHP LS6 based 427. Thats allot of power without having gone to C5R stuff. They said it could be used in a daily driver but the power would come at higher RPMs, which is fine with me because I run from rolls and I want to spray it.

My ARE 436ci Trans Am, I want to leave it alone, it runs to friggin sweet to change it or better it. Its a perfect daily driver with gobbs of power.

So how much could be had from using C5R stuff with a 427ci? If its not much more than 725 FWHP why bother spending the cash?
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Quickin, your projects are sick, what is this beast going into if your T/A is keeping the stroker?
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Quickin, your projects are sick, what is this beast going into if your T/A is keeping the stroker?
I haven't started any other project besides my current car.

I want to have a motor built thats completely insane for another WS6. I'd like to have over 600 RWHP on-motor, then spray it with a 250 shot or maybe more. The MORE Performance motor seems like the baddest one out there.

I'd like to put this in a WS6. The 1,600 hp package. I got a quote for $55,000. TH-400 tranny, built Ford 9" rear-end, full suspension and a brake upgrade, fully tuned and ready to pick up.

http://www.bankspower.com/twin-turbo-products.cfm



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Originally Posted by J-Rod
You can either do a Kinsler setup, or one of the 8tb setups from Australia. You can keep the stock computer and convert it to a Speed Density setup. There are several Aussie's playing with C5R head setups.

Kurt Urban (427) from Wheel to Wheel has done numerous C5R head projects he has basically stated a C5R head is useless unless its on a big bore motor. But if you go 427, I think you can make big power. The benefit of an 225 AFR is it will work with a stock manifold. The C5R requires something custom, but if you tune runner length, etc... I think you could make crazy power.

You might contact Kurt for more info.
This is where we are upto in Australia.
C5R Block and heads. 440ci
740fwhp 640foot pound torque.
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Originally Posted by Quickin
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Originally Posted by Quickin
I'd like to put this in a WS6. The 1,600 hp package. I got a quote for $55,000. TH-400 tranny, built Ford 9" rear-end, full suspension and a brake upgrade, fully tuned and ready to pick up.

http://www.bankspower.com/twin-turbo-products.cfm
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the $49,000 Twin-Turbo setup from Lingenfelter is starting to look like a bargain
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Originally Posted by granitemonkey
the $49,000 Twin-Turbo setup from Lingenfelter is starting to look like a bargain
LPE is damn good stuff. But the Banks engine would *** rape anything LPE has built. And for the money, LPE is way over-priced. Plus with Banks you get a DART block and heads, which are way better and stronger than LS1/6 stuff. So for another $6,000 you get the tranny, rear-end, suspension, and about 550 more HP. Plus a totally polished engine.

There is no comparison.
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ummm.. did you hit your head again?
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Originally Posted by angst911
ummm.. did you hit your head again?
Nope, I'm currently e-mailing back and forth with MORE. They can do their 427 C5R solid roller 725 HP engine...with C5R heads. They said to expect 60-80 more HP.

Then a 300 DP shot on top of that I'll know in about 1 month if this will happen, if so it will be going into another WS6 street car.

Roll race KING.
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Originally Posted by angst911
ummm.. did you hit your head again?
Nope, I'm currently e-mailing back and forth with MORE. They can do their 427 C5R solid roller 725 HP engine...with C5R heads. They said to expect 60-80 more HP.

Then a 300 DP shot on top of that I'll know in about 1 month if this will happen, if so it will be going into another WS6 street car.

Roll race KING.
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You are the freakin man..

all hail Quickin..
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Keep us updated. It sounds awesome!!
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Originally Posted by NastySSoo
Keep us updated. It sounds awesome!!
Only if things go as planned with my business, crossing fingers. I am insane, thats a fact.


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