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AFR issue The issue is the intake manifold will not go on, the holes do not line up.
The installer checked the the deck height per AFR instructions and it checked ok.
After sitting there pondering wtf was wrong, they noticed that the angle cut on the intake ports looked a little off. They measured the angles while still on the car, one was 72* and one was 69* They also measured across the center bolt holes on the the heads and the manifold and they did not match. The distance was greater across the center bolt holes on the heads.
Anyway, I need to start taking deep breaths
The installer checked the the deck height per AFR instructions and it checked ok.
After sitting there pondering wtf was wrong, they noticed that the angle cut on the intake ports looked a little off. They measured the angles while still on the car, one was 72* and one was 69* They also measured across the center bolt holes on the the heads and the manifold and they did not match. The distance was greater across the center bolt holes on the heads.
Anyway, I need to start taking deep breaths
Originally Posted by Spellbound
The issue is the intake manifold will not go on, the holes do not line up.
The installer checked the the deck height per AFR instructions and it checked ok.
After sitting there pondering wtf was wrong, they noticed that the angle cut on the intake ports looked a little off. They measured the angles while still on the car, one was 72* and one was 69* They also measured across the center bolt holes on the the heads and the manifold and they did not match. The distance was greater across the center bolt holes on the heads.
Anyway, I need to start taking deep breaths
The installer checked the the deck height per AFR instructions and it checked ok.
After sitting there pondering wtf was wrong, they noticed that the angle cut on the intake ports looked a little off. They measured the angles while still on the car, one was 72* and one was 69* They also measured across the center bolt holes on the the heads and the manifold and they did not match. The distance was greater across the center bolt holes on the heads.
Anyway, I need to start taking deep breaths
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From: Norcal
Originally Posted by max's dad
Are you f'in kidding me? When did you get the heads? I've got a set that I'm planning to install next week. What vendor did they come from?
The installer is going to call AFR tomorrow and I have E mailed Brian at TSP.
Hello everyone,
I'm using Tony's log in, as he is out of town and I don't have one. Spellbound, I wanted to respond to this as quickly as possible to let you know you have the support from AFR to solve this issue as quickly as possible. I saw this post pop up after everyone here had left for the day. Please call me tomorrow or have your installer call and ask for me. I'd like to have some more info such as:
1) Were the heads milled? If so, how much, and by whom.
2) Which intake manifold is being used? Which intake manifold seals?
3) Which head gasket is being used?
I'll do my best to get to the root of the problem and get you up and running as quickly as possible.
Thanks for your patience,
Guy Tripp
Air Flow Research
I'm using Tony's log in, as he is out of town and I don't have one. Spellbound, I wanted to respond to this as quickly as possible to let you know you have the support from AFR to solve this issue as quickly as possible. I saw this post pop up after everyone here had left for the day. Please call me tomorrow or have your installer call and ask for me. I'd like to have some more info such as:
1) Were the heads milled? If so, how much, and by whom.
2) Which intake manifold is being used? Which intake manifold seals?
3) Which head gasket is being used?
I'll do my best to get to the root of the problem and get you up and running as quickly as possible.
Thanks for your patience,
Guy Tripp
Air Flow Research
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From: Norcal
Originally Posted by Tony Mamo @ AFR
Hello everyone,
I'm using Tony's log in, as he is out of town and I don't have one. Spellbound, I wanted to respond to this as quickly as possible to let you know you have the support from AFR to solve this issue as quickly as possible. I saw this post pop up after everyone here had left for the day. Please call me tomorrow or have your installer call and ask for me. I'd like to have some more info such as:
1) Were the heads milled? If so, how much, and by whom.
2) Which intake manifold is being used? Which intake manifold seals?
3) Which head gasket is being used?
I'll do my best to get to the root of the problem and get you up and running as quickly as possible.
Thanks for your patience,
Guy Tripp
Air Flow Research
I'm using Tony's log in, as he is out of town and I don't have one. Spellbound, I wanted to respond to this as quickly as possible to let you know you have the support from AFR to solve this issue as quickly as possible. I saw this post pop up after everyone here had left for the day. Please call me tomorrow or have your installer call and ask for me. I'd like to have some more info such as:
1) Were the heads milled? If so, how much, and by whom.
2) Which intake manifold is being used? Which intake manifold seals?
3) Which head gasket is being used?
I'll do my best to get to the root of the problem and get you up and running as quickly as possible.
Thanks for your patience,
Guy Tripp
Air Flow Research
2) Stock LS6 manifold. The car is a 2002 Z/28. I assume stock Gaskets.
3) Cometic head gaskets.
The installer will call tomorrow.
Thank you for your response.
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I'll be puttin mine on next week. 
Its nice AFR is keeping an eye on this board to see any issues or if anyone has questions 
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Trust me, Tony and the rest of the folks at AFR really do care about getting everyone a good product.
Tony spent a lot of time on these heads and takes any and all issues or question very seriously. These heads and their success are near and dear to his heart.
If anyone ever has a question or an issue with AFR all you need to do is pick up the phone, and Tony will take care of it...
Tony spent a lot of time on these heads and takes any and all issues or question very seriously. These heads and their success are near and dear to his heart.
If anyone ever has a question or an issue with AFR all you need to do is pick up the phone, and Tony will take care of it...
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Originally Posted by Tony Mamo @ AFR
Hello everyone,
I'm using Tony's log in, as he is out of town and I don't have one. Spellbound, I wanted to respond to this as quickly as possible to let you know you have the support from AFR to solve this issue as quickly as possible. I saw this post pop up after everyone here had left for the day. Please call me tomorrow or have your installer call and ask for me. I'd like to have some more info such as:
1) Were the heads milled? If so, how much, and by whom.
2) Which intake manifold is being used? Which intake manifold seals?
3) Which head gasket is being used?
I'll do my best to get to the root of the problem and get you up and running as quickly as possible.
Thanks for your patience,
Guy Tripp
Air Flow Research
I'm using Tony's log in, as he is out of town and I don't have one. Spellbound, I wanted to respond to this as quickly as possible to let you know you have the support from AFR to solve this issue as quickly as possible. I saw this post pop up after everyone here had left for the day. Please call me tomorrow or have your installer call and ask for me. I'd like to have some more info such as:
1) Were the heads milled? If so, how much, and by whom.
2) Which intake manifold is being used? Which intake manifold seals?
3) Which head gasket is being used?
I'll do my best to get to the root of the problem and get you up and running as quickly as possible.
Thanks for your patience,
Guy Tripp
Air Flow Research
If there's an immediate issue, you can send him a set you have scheduled for delivery to me to help him out...
Just don't charge me for them...
Ed
The same thing happened to me I called TSP and they said no one else complained. I had to modify my intake to make the manifold fit I was Pissed 2100 and the damn manifold didn't fit. I thought I screwed up but now that someone else had the problemm I know its not me.
I got the heads from TSP about 3 weeks ago Stock 205's. The only reason I forced the manifold on is becasue i needed to get my car back on the road becasue it is my daliy driver and i needed to get to work on monday. I found out the manifold didn't fit at 12:00 Sunday afternoon. Anyway you can get it to fit by slighty grinding the bottom of the bolt guides studs on the manifold. You hav to play with it until it will line up. Let me know how you make out. I have not had a chance to check if the manifold leaks. It does not leak at idle, and all th e bolts torqued down OK once I got them started.
I got the heads from TSP about 3 weeks ago Stock 205's. The only reason I forced the manifold on is becasue i needed to get my car back on the road becasue it is my daliy driver and i needed to get to work on monday. I found out the manifold didn't fit at 12:00 Sunday afternoon. Anyway you can get it to fit by slighty grinding the bottom of the bolt guides studs on the manifold. You hav to play with it until it will line up. Let me know how you make out. I have not had a chance to check if the manifold leaks. It does not leak at idle, and all th e bolts torqued down OK once I got them started.
Oh yeah does anyone know what MAP pressure should be around? I logged the car last night and it seemed low. I think it was around 8 PSI and I am only running a TR 224 cam. Is that normal???
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Originally Posted by MYBLKSS
The same thing happened to me I called TSP and they said no one else complained. I had to modify my intake to make the manifold fit I was Pissed 2100 and the damn manifold didn't fit. I thought I screwed up but now that someone else had the problemm I know its not me..... .
IF TSP already knew of this problem, that is absolute BS!!!
$2100+ and the end-all of all heads does not fit....
that is crap!!! In TSP's defense I was the only case they knew about as of the beginning of last week 9/18, and I was also not able to truly quantify the problem as spellbound has. I just notified TSP all the trouble I had to go through to get the manifold on.