do I need to hone the block?
04-06-2003, 05:41 PM
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Re: do I need to hone the block? do you have to? prolly not. you could mic the pistons and bores and match em up as close as possible. but things are gonna be mismatched, and no two would fit the same.
if you are considering a set of forged pistons, why skimp on setting them up properly? when you install new pistons, honing the block insures a nice round hole for the piston and is cut to a size that best fits the new piston.
a block with 32k can be considered a seasoned block, meaning any distortions that are likely to occur have already occured. so if you hone the block now, the bores are more likely to remain true. while you have the block bare you might consider line boring the crank journals as well. you might be suprised at the difference it can make.
to me it's a no brainer. if you've got the pistons and can't afford to get the block honed, just keep throwing your pocket change in a jar till you can. that way you'll get the most benifit from them.
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if you are considering a set of forged pistons, why skimp on setting them up properly? when you install new pistons, honing the block insures a nice round hole for the piston and is cut to a size that best fits the new piston.
a block with 32k can be considered a seasoned block, meaning any distortions that are likely to occur have already occured. so if you hone the block now, the bores are more likely to remain true. while you have the block bare you might consider line boring the crank journals as well. you might be suprised at the difference it can make.
to me it's a no brainer. if you've got the pistons and can't afford to get the block honed, just keep throwing your pocket change in a jar till you can. that way you'll get the most benifit from them.
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04-06-2003, 06:21 PM
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Re: do I need to hone the block? most aftermarket forged pistons are slightly larger than stock...which is usually .005"-.010"...dont cheap your way out...pull it out...send it to a machine shop...have it cleaned, honed, and replace your rod, main, and cam bearings...good luck
04-06-2003, 10:27 PM
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Re: do I need to hone the block? ok...thanks guys, you said exactly what I always felt (just wanted to make sure I was not just being over cautious). You don't "have" to, but its stupid not to.
SixPak, you mentioned that after 32K miles, my block was seasoned. If the liners are replaces (go to a larger bore), would it still be considered seasoned (the block still has its heat/cooling cycles but now the liners are not seasoned).
Thanks again,
Chris
<small>[ April 06, 2003, 10:38 PM: Message edited by: 2001CamaroGuy ]</small>
SixPak, you mentioned that after 32K miles, my block was seasoned. If the liners are replaces (go to a larger bore), would it still be considered seasoned (the block still has its heat/cooling cycles but now the liners are not seasoned).
Thanks again,
Chris
<small>[ April 06, 2003, 10:38 PM: Message edited by: 2001CamaroGuy ]</small>
04-07-2003, 12:08 AM
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do I need to hone the block? Ok....I have about 32,000 miles on my 01 short block. I have thought about getting a set of forged pistons and just swaping the stock units out (no more oil eating/ticking/etc...).
I have noticed some other people replacing there stock pistons and am wondering if they are actually pulling the engine and having it honed/cleaned up or if I can just do a direct swap. If I can just swap, then I should be able to just pull the heads and pull the pistons out the top.
Chris
<small>[ April 06, 2003, 01:16 PM: Message edited by: 2001CamaroGuy ]</small>
I have noticed some other people replacing there stock pistons and am wondering if they are actually pulling the engine and having it honed/cleaned up or if I can just do a direct swap. If I can just swap, then I should be able to just pull the heads and pull the pistons out the top.
Chris
<small>[ April 06, 2003, 01:16 PM: Message edited by: 2001CamaroGuy ]</small>
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Re: do I need to hone the block? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2001CamaroGuy:
<strong> ok...thanks guys, you said exactly what I always felt (just wanted to make sure I was not just being over cautious). You don't "have" to, but its stupid not to.
SixPak, you mentioned that after 32K miles, my block was seasoned. If the liners are replaces (go to a larger bore), would it still be considered seasoned (the block still has its heat/cooling cycles but now the liners are not seasoned).
Thanks again,
Chris </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I can't answer that one, having never dealt with sleeved engine blocks. I'll yield to someone with more experience on that one.
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<strong> ok...thanks guys, you said exactly what I always felt (just wanted to make sure I was not just being over cautious). You don't "have" to, but its stupid not to.
SixPak, you mentioned that after 32K miles, my block was seasoned. If the liners are replaces (go to a larger bore), would it still be considered seasoned (the block still has its heat/cooling cycles but now the liners are not seasoned).
Thanks again,
Chris </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I can't answer that one, having never dealt with sleeved engine blocks. I'll yield to someone with more experience on that one.
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