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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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anyone else use these lifters, gosh they are louder than stock
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 06:56 AM
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Alot of us use them...they are no louder when installed properly..adjustable rockers only!!
.008-.010" preload cold.
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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I have them, and I do not notice any more noise.
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 04:40 PM
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You can use them without adjustable valvetrain, you just have to be real precise on your push rod length. Get you an adjustable pushrod and adjust it out until zero lash and add .010" to it. The only problem is the lenths are only availible in .050 increments.
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 04:45 PM
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Comp carries pushrods in .025" increments for LS-1's
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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called comp, and installed them on hot settings, less than 1/8th of a turn, with adjustable rockers, they sure are louder than stock, comp told me they would be, but dang, i thought the point of a hydraulic lifter was to quieten down the valvetrain
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 06:40 AM
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why would they be quieter..stock is hydraulic roller too..
try setting cold...008-.010..see if that clears it up...its obviously not right.
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What is the advantage to this lifter as opposed to the stock one? I dont see stock ones failing, so is there a reason to switch? Are they more reliable? Do they make more power? Are they quieter?

I'm missing the point of switching.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 08:15 AM
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generally aftermarket is more reliable..look at the stock rockers...they self destruct..
I upgraded all valvetrain parts over stock...not saying im right..but GM skimps where they can and only design parts for moderate hp..
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Originally Posted by SAM98WS6
generally aftermarket is more reliable..look at the stock rockers...they self destruct..
I upgraded all valvetrain parts over stock...not saying im right..but GM skimps where they can and only design parts for moderate hp..
They self destruct? I haven't been on here in awhile, so maybe I've missed it, but who's lifters are self destructing? I've only seen a handful of failures, and this motor has been out since 97. So no more than on any other motor.

I'm not doubting that the aftermarket might be a better piece, but just want to see some examples of stock failures, to justify the additional expense. In fact, IMO, the stock ones will be just fine for 95% of the people on here.
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If you read it again he says the stock ROCKERS self destruct. Bearings tend to fall out of them. It's pretty common.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 05:34 PM
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But I have NEVER seen anyone on here having problems with stock lifters, people are turning them to 7000 rpm and I've seen 2 instances of Comp R's "sticking" and tearing up motors on this board, which is why I'm taking that crap out of my motor in January. The people on here who are always ranting about how bad stock parts are don't know what the hell they're talking about.
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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yeah i've also never heard of the stock rockers going bad either...can you show me some instances since it's "pretty common"
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Search things like "needle bearings in oil pan" or "changed my oil, what are these thin metal pins". That may not get em all but threads that I have seen went something like that. Another way I have seen it is "new noises under valve cover".
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by LSUxBlake
But I have NEVER seen anyone on here having problems with stock lifters, people are turning them to 7000 rpm and I've seen 2 instances of Comp R's "sticking" and tearing up motors on this board, which is why I'm taking that crap out of my motor in January. The people on here who are always ranting about how bad stock parts are don't know what the hell they're talking about.
RPMs are only a part of the issue with stock lifters and performance. The spring pressures, weight of the valvetrain and proper install are the other HUGE complement that determines the lifter's function.

If your spring pressure are pretty high you're more likley to destroy the lifter prematurely.

I have Comp Rs, they're dead quiet and have had no issues with 13K miles. They were professionally installed. I also have Jesel SS series rockers and non-insane spring pressures.

It's all about the selection of parts and install.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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why would i waste my breath telling you guys stock rockers self destruct..if they didnt..come on..do a search before you act like buttheads..we are just trying to help you guys avoid problems we've gone through.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bo White
Search things like "needle bearings in oil pan" or "changed my oil, what are these thin metal pins". That may not get em all but threads that I have seen went something like that. Another way I have seen it is "new noises under valve cover".
This failer is not too uncommon at all.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 10:39 PM
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stock lifters work just fine and so do stock rockers.rockers have failed on rare occasion but its nothing to worry about[the asa race series has been using stock rockers and lifters and typically get 2 seasons on a motor,and they run them hard!. comp. r's scare me more i have seen them fall apart.not a good choice for a aluminum motor[expansion and contraction]imo.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 01:00 AM
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Well I'm pretty sure I have at least one stock lifter that is toast right know. My motor has been making a hell of a racket. I'm still in the process of teardown, and all of the springs, rockers, and pushrods seem to be in perfect shape. BTW, I'm running CC 918 springs, Yella Terra rockers, and Thunder Racing pushrods with a TR224 cam. I'll be putting in CC stock replacement lifters.

I haven't heard of many LS1 lifter failures, but there have been a few. As for stock rocker arm failures, there have been quite a number of those.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 02:33 AM
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I'm all about the stock lifters/rockers for now. What would I know though.
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