gmpp ported ls6 heads and hot cam
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gmpp ported ls6 heads and hot cam
just wondering if anyone has tried this set up with all bolt ons on their fourth gen f body. if so how is the drivability and power? i really want to do it.
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My hotcam alone was worth it. Excellent power and drivability. My only complaint is bucking at low-low RPM (like when you are crawling on I-95). Around town and normal driving, it is perfect. I think LS6 heads are overpriced. Most flow comparisons I have seen show ported LS1 heads to flow almost as well as ported LS6 heads, and actually flow better at some lift points. I don't see any reason to spend the extra money (don't know the price difference on those) unless you are going all out and have spare cash to burn.
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Originally Posted by Another_User
My hotcam alone was worth it. Excellent power and drivability. My only complaint is bucking at low-low RPM (like when you are crawling on I-95). Around town and normal driving, it is perfect. I think LS6 heads are overpriced. Most flow comparisons I have seen show ported LS1 heads to flow almost as well as ported LS6 heads, and actually flow better at some lift points. I don't see any reason to spend the extra money (don't know the price difference on those) unless you are going all out and have spare cash to burn.
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[QUOTE=Oscar Will]I took the GM Hot Cam out of my motor, idle and low end drivability just didn't cut it. It did make good horsepower but at the expense of drivability.[/QUOTE
Would you consider selling me the HOT Cam for a good price? It's Christmas you know.....
Would you consider selling me the HOT Cam for a good price? It's Christmas you know.....
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I took the GM Hot Cam out of my motor, idle and low end drivability just didn't cut it. It did make good horsepower but at the expense of drivability.
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Originally Posted by Another_User
If you tweak it you can make it bearable without tuning (TB set screw, etc). Driving the car after I tuned it compared to before, it's like night and day. I highly recommend tuning with the hot cam. I think the only one I would drive un-tuned would be an LS6 cam (just speculating though based on what I have heard). My car idles very smoothly. So smooth you can't tell it is cammed.
The rest of my mods are LS6 intake, vortex air intake, 3.90's kooks long tubes, GHL mufflers. Stock everything else. A LSX90mm intake and t/body would wake this up alot. But the best part is you'll never have to worry about valve train damage due to 600+ lift cams, and I usually shift this at about 64-6500rpms. And this cam sounds awesome!
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I'll keep the hot cam for my son's bracket racer project. I could've tweaked it but I'm old now and I used to tolerate lumpy cams years ago......not any more. If I was using a manual trans it would be ok but even with my 2000 stall it isn't that good.
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Originally Posted by cyclerage
I have the GMPP heads and ASA cam. I love it! It took a while to for me to tune it, maybe becasue it was my first LS1 tune job but now its great. I still need to dyno it but it runs good times at the track. Best so far is 11.35 and best E.T is 123.xx.on a 1.69 60'ft. I having clutch issues so my launches really suck! But Carteck is going to fix that for me!
The rest of my mods are LS6 intake, vortex air intake, 3.90's kooks long tubes, GHL mufflers. Stock everything else. A LSX90mm intake and t/body would wake this up alot. But the best part is you'll never have to worry about valve train damage due to 600+ lift cams, and I usually shift this at about 64-6500rpms. And this cam sounds awesome!
The rest of my mods are LS6 intake, vortex air intake, 3.90's kooks long tubes, GHL mufflers. Stock everything else. A LSX90mm intake and t/body would wake this up alot. But the best part is you'll never have to worry about valve train damage due to 600+ lift cams, and I usually shift this at about 64-6500rpms. And this cam sounds awesome!
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My favorite cam (the ASA):
SDPC Part Number: 12480110
Manufacturer: GM Performance Parts
Advertised Duration Int. : Not Available
Advertised Duration Exh. : Not Available
Duration @ 0.050" (I/E) : 226/236
Lift (I/E) : 0.525"/0.525"
Lobe Separation : 110
RPM Range : 2500 - 6500
Cam Type : Hydraulic Roller
I should have gotten this cam with GMPP LS6 CNC heads. No need for future valve spring swaps. Plenty of torque.
SDPC Part Number: 12480110
Manufacturer: GM Performance Parts
Advertised Duration Int. : Not Available
Advertised Duration Exh. : Not Available
Duration @ 0.050" (I/E) : 226/236
Lift (I/E) : 0.525"/0.525"
Lobe Separation : 110
RPM Range : 2500 - 6500
Cam Type : Hydraulic Roller
I should have gotten this cam with GMPP LS6 CNC heads. No need for future valve spring swaps. Plenty of torque.
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Originally Posted by cyclerage
I have the GMPP heads and ASA cam. I love it! It took a while to for me to tune it, maybe becasue it was my first LS1 tune job but now its great. I still need to dyno it but it runs good times at the track. Best so far is 11.35 and best E.T is 123.xx.on a 1.69 60'ft. I having clutch issues so my launches really suck! But Carteck is going to fix that for me!
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Originally Posted by cyclerage
I have the GMPP heads and ASA cam. I love it! It took a while to for me to tune it, maybe becasue it was my first LS1 tune job but now its great. I still need to dyno it but it runs good times at the track. Best so far is 11.35 and best E.T is 123.xx.on a 1.69 60'ft. I having clutch issues so my launches really suck! But Carteck is going to fix that for me!
The rest of my mods are LS6 intake, vortex air intake, 3.90's kooks long tubes, GHL mufflers. Stock everything else. A LSX90mm intake and t/body would wake this up alot. But the best part is you'll never have to worry about valve train damage due to 600+ lift cams, and I usually shift this at about 64-6500rpms. And this cam sounds awesome!
The rest of my mods are LS6 intake, vortex air intake, 3.90's kooks long tubes, GHL mufflers. Stock everything else. A LSX90mm intake and t/body would wake this up alot. But the best part is you'll never have to worry about valve train damage due to 600+ lift cams, and I usually shift this at about 64-6500rpms. And this cam sounds awesome!
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South FloridaSS-you would take that cam over the TSP 231/237 that's in your car now? You really think the ASA cam is that much better? I just don't see how, care to explain? Only benefits i see is gobs of bottom end torque, and very light valverain wear.....
Will you explain why it's your favorite?
Will you explain why it's your favorite?
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Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
My favorite cam (the ASA):
SDPC Part Number: 12480110
Manufacturer: GM Performance Parts
Advertised Duration Int. : Not Available
Advertised Duration Exh. : Not Available
Duration @ 0.050" (I/E) : 226/236
Lift (I/E) : 0.525"/0.525"
Lobe Separation : 110
RPM Range : 2500 - 6500
Cam Type : Hydraulic Roller
I should have gotten this cam with GMPP LS6 CNC heads. No need for future valve spring swaps. Plenty of torque.
SDPC Part Number: 12480110
Manufacturer: GM Performance Parts
Advertised Duration Int. : Not Available
Advertised Duration Exh. : Not Available
Duration @ 0.050" (I/E) : 226/236
Lift (I/E) : 0.525"/0.525"
Lobe Separation : 110
RPM Range : 2500 - 6500
Cam Type : Hydraulic Roller
I should have gotten this cam with GMPP LS6 CNC heads. No need for future valve spring swaps. Plenty of torque.
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The ASA is the meanest sounding cam I've heard. Its idle is very wicked.
Don't get me wrong. The TEA 1.5's and TSP 231/237 combo that I have performs very well- especially at high rpms.
But, I still am required to swap out valve springs in 20K mile intervals, and I could use some more tq down low. There are plenty of cams out there that will kick the crap out of the ASA in terms of peak numbers, but I maintain that the GMPP CNC LS6 head/ ASA cam combo is a very maintenance-free combo that is often overlooked. With .525 lift making such decent power and tq, it's a very appealing setup.
Don't get me wrong. The TEA 1.5's and TSP 231/237 combo that I have performs very well- especially at high rpms.
But, I still am required to swap out valve springs in 20K mile intervals, and I could use some more tq down low. There are plenty of cams out there that will kick the crap out of the ASA in terms of peak numbers, but I maintain that the GMPP CNC LS6 head/ ASA cam combo is a very maintenance-free combo that is often overlooked. With .525 lift making such decent power and tq, it's a very appealing setup.
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Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
The ASA is the meanest sounding cam I've heard. Its idle is very wicked.
Don't get me wrong. The TEA 1.5's and TSP 231/237 combo that I have performs very well- especially at high rpms.
But, I still am required to swap out valve springs in 20K mile intervals, and I could use some more tq down low. There are plenty of cams out there that will kick the crap out of the ASA in terms of peak numbers, but I maintain that the GMPP CNC LS6 head/ ASA cam combo is a very maintenance-free combo that is often overlooked. With .525 lift making such decent power and tq, it's a very appealing setup.
Don't get me wrong. The TEA 1.5's and TSP 231/237 combo that I have performs very well- especially at high rpms.
But, I still am required to swap out valve springs in 20K mile intervals, and I could use some more tq down low. There are plenty of cams out there that will kick the crap out of the ASA in terms of peak numbers, but I maintain that the GMPP CNC LS6 head/ ASA cam combo is a very maintenance-free combo that is often overlooked. With .525 lift making such decent power and tq, it's a very appealing setup.
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Originally Posted by cyclerage
I have the GMPP heads and ASA cam. I love it! It took a while to for me to tune it, maybe becasue it was my first LS1 tune job but now its great. I still need to dyno it but it runs good times at the track. Best so far is 11.35 and best E.T is 123.xx.on a 1.69 60'ft. I having clutch issues so my launches really suck! But Carteck is going to fix that for me!
The rest of my mods are LS6 intake, vortex air intake, 3.90's kooks long tubes, GHL mufflers. Stock everything else. A LSX90mm intake and t/body would wake this up alot. But the best part is you'll never have to worry about valve train damage due to 600+ lift cams, and I usually shift this at about 64-6500rpms. And this cam sounds awesome!
The rest of my mods are LS6 intake, vortex air intake, 3.90's kooks long tubes, GHL mufflers. Stock everything else. A LSX90mm intake and t/body would wake this up alot. But the best part is you'll never have to worry about valve train damage due to 600+ lift cams, and I usually shift this at about 64-6500rpms. And this cam sounds awesome!