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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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very nice
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mikey
I designed a tool that cuts them to the same depth every time. Here is the finished pistons:


those exhaust cuts look like different depths to me...look how "tall" the cuts are and how they vary...equal cuts should be equal size (since valve angle is constant)
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ramairstyle00
this car still runs fine after a few runs to redlines
those cuts look about the same size as mine
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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This was the motor that the cutter was designed on. The piston on the right was the first one and I was fooling around with different cutter sizes. It is wider than the rest but not deeper. The way that the cutter is designed, it is impossible to cut too deep. On the other hand if the piston is not at perfect TDC, the cuts can be too shallow.

This motor went on to make 502rwhp and 437 rwtq (in sig).
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mikey
This was the motor that the cutter was designed on. The piston on the right was the first one and I was fooling around with different cutter sizes. It is wider than the rest but not deeper. The way that the cutter is designed, it is impossible to cut too deep. On the other hand if the piston is not at perfect TDC, the cuts can be too shallow.

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yeah...I figured as much...just an observation based on what I learned while cutting mine
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 09:02 AM
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What exactly does this do?
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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What exactly does this do?
makes room for the valves if you get a rowdy camshaft
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mikey
This was the motor that the cutter was designed on. The piston on the right was the first one and I was fooling around with different cutter sizes. It is wider than the rest but not deeper. The way that the cutter is designed, it is impossible to cut too deep. On the other hand if the piston is not at perfect TDC, the cuts can be too shallow.

This motor went on to make 502rwhp and 437 rwtq (in sig).
Hey Mikey, how deep did you end up cutting those pistons? I've got your dominator cam installed, I'm just waiting to get my heads back for the car. I decided to cut the pistons and run the 1.8 rockers.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JF WS6
Hey Mikey, how deep did you end up cutting those pistons? I've got your dominator cam installed, I'm just waiting to get my heads back for the car. I decided to cut the pistons and run the 1.8 rockers.
About 0.060"
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mikey
About 0.060"
I should be good then, I already started and have been going about .070-.075.
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Just don't cut more than .100 out of them
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Originally Posted by Fireball
those cuts look about the same size as mine
bout .110 on the intake and .120 on the exhaust?
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NoseUp
Just don't cut more than .100 out of them
Jay billingsley has more out of his pistons than my buddy does. where did you get this info?
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 01:24 PM
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We just tested strength per thickness of the factory pistons. With anything more than .100 out of them, user beware. Add juice and spin to 7000 and you're asking for it. High compression apps. should follow the same warning. I'm not saying anything but be careful. I know many that have cut more, as well as doing it myself for the last couple lumpy cam jobs. Now after testing strengths, it's .100 or after-market pistons for me...I certainly wouldn't guarantee negative results, it's just a freindly warning for those that just haven't given it any thought

Also, Gomer's "All of mine are different sizes, and it is still together." statement subliminally brings up another point. It is important to get them as close to the same depths as possible, especially if you're not having the assembly balanced afterward. With different amounts removed, not only will compression differ between cylinders, different piston weights can really throw an engine off-balance. Just another freindly be careful for those that just haven't given it any thought
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by NoseUp
We just tested strength per thickness of the factory pistons. With anything more than .100 out of them, user beware. Add juice and spin to 7000 and you're asking for it. High compression apps. should follow the same warning. I'm not saying anything but be careful. I know many that have cut more, as well as doing it myself for the last couple lumpy cam jobs. Now after testing strengths, it's .100 or after-market pistons for me...I certainly wouldn't guarantee negative results, it's just a freindly warning for those that just haven't given it any thought

Also, Gomer's "All of mine are different sizes, and it is still together." statement subliminally brings up another point. It is important to get them as close to the same depths as possible, especially if you're not having the assembly balanced afterward. With different amounts removed, not only will compression differ between cylinders, different piston weights can really throw an engine off-balance. Just another freindly be careful for those that just haven't given it any thought
Couldn't have said it better myself...To anyone who is going to flycut their own pistons...GET A CC BURETT! It's a very cheap and very effective way of measuring. -1cc cut's are fine for most any aftermarket 346ci camshaft...but verify with your camshaft designer to be sure -1cc is enough.

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