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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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Looks like I may be getting my heads, but without the springs.

What is a good spring kit?
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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http://www.vincihighperformance.com/superwebdeals.HTML these have been on the wife's since april of 04. when i put the vinci heads on her car this weekend, i will be using them again.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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Patriot Dual Spring Kit includes Titanium retainers, Dual springs, Spring seats, and Valve seals. Good to .650 lift, direct bolt in, no machining required.

I went with this kit because I heard nothing but good about them and you just can't beat the price. I got them for $275 at ls1speed.com
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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http://www.vincihighperformance.com/superwebdeals.HTML these have been on the wife's since april of 04. when i put the vinci heads on her car this weekend, i will be using them again.
Isn't that all Crane stuff? Looks like crane to me.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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good crane stuff
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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crane and vinci have a long standing relationship since the 60s. yes crane makes the springs for vinci.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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Texas speed is a good place to call they will get ya the good stuff I run Patriot Duals on mine. PRCs is good to.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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i run PRC's and love 'em. I haven't had them for too long though so I can't comment on longetivity.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 04:46 AM
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PRC is the way to go.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 08:03 AM
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Patriot "Golds" are not only one of the best springs on the market...they are the best deal. You can get the orginal "Gold" spring kit which comes complete with Patriot "Gold" .650" dual springs, Titanium retainers, super 7 locks, machined seat bases and viton rubber seals for only $279.50
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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Sounds like a good deal. Once I get my heads I will place an order.

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Patriot Dual Spring Kit includes Titanium retainers, Dual springs, Spring seats, and Valve seals. Good to .650 lift, direct bolt in, no machining required.

I went with this kit because I heard nothing but good about them and you just can't beat the price. I got them for $275 at ls1speed.com
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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Manley Nextek

I run them with my cam.

236 / 240 601 / 608 114+4 XER Comp Cams

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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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I 3rd the PRCs.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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Comp duals. 26921-kit it's kind of pricey but..." good ain't cheap and cheap ain't good"
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Bo White
I 3rd the PRCs.
Whos sells them, how much?
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Unaffiliated Racing
Comp duals. 26921-kit it's kind of pricey but..." good ain't cheap and cheap ain't good"
I would love to stay with Comps, those are what I am running now. But since I have to buy them again, they are a bit much. $550
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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Racetech- talk to Terry. I love Comp stuff and allways will- Its just they have bumped their head on the pricing.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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Ok, first...figure out how much spring you need. It sounds like you are in the 140# on the seat, 350# of the nose range for a 6500 rpm motor.

Next you need to determine quality. Which varies. Crower actually lists the springs by quality. As does Isky and Manley. Others make you search. There is a reason some springs are $100/set and others are $300, or $500/set.

Then their is the supporting hardware. Most people seem to run the titanium retainers ($200-350) with steel keepers (Ti keepers are available for many retainers).

The penalty for losing a spring can be very high, especially with a single spring. Nobody is selling springs that are intentionally bad. And all springs will lose stiffness after a while (on a tweaked motor they are not install and forget).

I am curious who is building a spring, Ti retainer, keepers, and seal for under $300. I would have more than a few questions.

After that, Comp, Manley Nextek, Ferrea, PSI, Isky Tool Room and Endurance Plus (which I don't think makes a 1.290) are also good. Make sure the retainers match the dual spring pair. And the keepers match the retainers.

I would think that $500 is a more reasonable low end range for springs, Ti retainers, and keepers. Can the engine builders chime in?
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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Both the PRCs and Patriots are under $300 for the kit.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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I will be running the patriot setup on my 239 LSK Comp .651" intake lobe and 246 XE-R exhaust lobe and will let you guys know how it does. If it can control the LSK lobes, the XE-Rs will be a breeze.
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