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Old 01-13-2005, 07:51 PM
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What makes Comp "R" lifters necessary? Seat load, open load, or spring rate? At what point (numerically) do they become necessary? Thanks, Shawn
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they are not necessary,i think they kind of suck. i have comp 850-16 i got from speed inc and they work great. hell...some board members have 550hp and still run stock lifters. i have near 500hp my self,so when i did the head swap i added new lifters for the hell of it.
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Right, but with some springs they are necessary. Comp 977s come to mind. HP levels don't matter, spring pressure does, I'm just not sure at what point (numerically) they become available? What springs are you running?

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HP level doesn't mean squat. I can spray a junk yard motor and make 800 hp, for a little while anyway, with some stock springs.

I would say it is your cam lobe, rpm, valve train weight and spring pressure.

In my case I guessed that the stock style lifters will not deal well with a 239 at .050" duration and .651" lift lobe and 6800 rpm.
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RPM's I guess.
Say 7000-8000rpm on a regular basis.

Hate those lifters.
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Very Agressive lobes and spring pressures...and I have both.
They work perfect for me...
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i'm running 977s with the the g5x2-switching to the x3 cam.i hear too many bad stories on pre-load. like i said i have never set a pre-load on the 850-16,i just tq them down.
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It's a domino effect. Big and aggressive cam lobes need stiff springs. Stiff springs put more load on the lifter. Stock and stock-type lifters can't take the extra load, so you are forced to upgrade...that's where Comp-R lifters come in.

It might be interesting to see what pressures Morel lifters can tolerate. Would be nice not to have to fool w/ adjustable rockers or shimming the stockers.
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The Morels in the marine market are getting 150 to 170# seat pressure and over the nose around 400 to 440#'s.
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Originally Posted by Cstraub
The Morels in the marine market are getting 150 to 170# seat pressure and over the nose around 400 to 440#'s.
Much more spring that that, and you probably should be looking to go solid roller anyway.


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