hey SDPC sells the ASA kit for $1240, are the extra parts overkill??

 

All you need is the cam and springs. Retainers are optional. Pushrods should be swapped also. I don't know what $1240 buys ya, but whatever it is, you don't need to spend that much.

 

ASA!!!!!!!! I love it, but I'm pulling it to go with a bigger cam. I got mine at an unbeatable price from Fred Beans (610)495-1700.

 

So, who's selling the TR224 for $200???

 

i know a guy who lives around me that ran a best of 12.0 on stock heads with a hotcam....sounded great with a cutout

 

385 rwhp and 379 rwtq through a 12 bolt with 4.10's with Hotcam and stock heads. Only tuning that I have is with a MAF translator and I did drill my tb. (HPP3 is only for gear ratio and stat) I have run a best of 12.08 @ 117.67 mph on a 1.75 60', can't get it any lower than that with the 26x10.5x16 ET streets. It pulls pretty good on the street and I am happy for now until I get the $ for a HC swap. Sounds bad *** as well!!!!
I say that if you can get it for cheap go for it but if not I'd get something else.

 

Which Hot cam do you have though?
LS6 or LS1 Hot cam?
I have the LS6 Gen3 Hot cam.
I'll be sellin it here soon for like 200 bucks when I buy a ligenfelter gt2-3 cam.

 

The what? LS6 hot cam? Never heard of it...sounds like poopie to me.

 

Well there is the Hot cam GM does for the LS1's and then there is the one they do for the LS6's. I've been told they are very similar but not the same.

 

I would like to see specs.

 

Well if you find em let me know. My curiosity really isn't tickled that much. I"m going to be switching cams soon and I've been very happy with the year of good sound, driveability, and good power the cam has provided. I'll just pass it on to someone else for 200 bucks.

 

News to me too!

While the debate goes on, the Hot Cam is a pretty good choice for a cam only motor. It has a nice ramp rate, so it's not that hard on the valve train. It has a KILLER idle! And it has a longer exh duration that complimetns the smaller vavles & lower exh flow rates. And you can see in my sig that 400rwhp is not out of line with one. True, I have 1.8 rocker arms, but 392 thru an A4 is not bad with stock heads.

That said, it does offer challenges to make it idle right, especially with an A4. But it CAN be done. And once I get my stall converter in, I should be knocking on the 11 sec range. Again, for up here in Seattle, that aint too shabby.

But you can put in a cam that will perform as well. The 224 is a nice streetable cam. Good power, and a fair idle. One thing I have heard about the Hot Cam is that it's lobes are tighter from front to back. Meaning that some cams will have more cernterline variations, while it is pretty dead-on.

 

The only good thing about the hotcam is the price. That's it. It has a LOT of total duration, and idles and drives much worse than larger cams. My roomate (Winman) had one and it drove much worse than my F11. He pulled it out and called Futral right away. The way i see it, if your car is going to lope real hard and surge, you might as well put a huge cam in it so you at least make more than 380rwhp. Call FMS, get a F11 or F13. They both drive like stock and make tons of power.

 

I completely disagree. The problem with the hotcam is that it requires tuning. You would never know my car has a hotcam from the idle. In fact, you really can't tell that it has a cam at all from the idle. The problem is, poopie tuners don't know how to tune for a hotcam. My idle is solid and smooth at stock timing at 900 rpm. The advantage to the hotcam is it's mid-range.

 

That's incorrect. Look at the total duration on the hotcam, compare it to one of our sponsors' cams of comparable size. The tuning was not done by a "poopie tuner", it was done properly. Like I said, if you want to buy a cam and are on a budget, buy it, however there are MUCH better cams that will idle better, drive better, and make much more power than the hotcam.
There is a reason why you don't see any of the popular cams with a 10 degree split pattern.

 

Blake I don't agreee with you at all. I've been running this cam for well over a year now I would say closer to 2 years. It's driveability to me is flawless. I never have any probs with it at all. I think you're just being biased because it's not a major power cam.

Another User it doesn't idle like stock for me. But it does make good mid-range power. I think my idle is set to 800 though. It has a beautiful sound to it and the car pulls hard.

People talk a lot of trash on the hotcam. I think it's an awesome thing. I have full intentions on going to a Bigger cam when I switch to turbo but if you're researching and taking your time to really thouroughly learn cams or what ever. It's a great cam to switch to and not know anything about cams.

You can sleep soundly knowing it's going to make good power, drive well, and not give you any problems.

IMHO it's an I want to upgrade my cam but don't know what to do cam. Yet still know you're gonna get good benefits all around with no disadvantages.

I'm completely happy with the cam. Kinda worried about upgrading now cause I'm so happy with it I don't wanna mess up and choose the wrong cam.

 

Well i just finished my Hot Cam install yesterday and started it for the the first time haven't got a chance to drive it cause we have 2ft of snow i upgraded to the hot cam for idle it has sounds mean and theres enough spray to back it.So as of now i am happy car fired right just had to turn the key and it ran on its own didn't have to hold the rpm's up or anything like that and seems to idle right around 750rpms by it's self.Now i have a mean sounding idle and was a great learning expeirence installing it did comp 918's,LS6 oil pump,new timing chain set,hardend pushrods and the cam.
Thats my .02's and Blake rims look nice on your car seeing them makes me miss them
BTLFEDSS

 

and thats the problem. the only thing the HC has for it is the cheap price but that goes out the window when you factor 250-500 for a tune. if your going to pay for a tune you might as well throw in a better cam or go with a cam that doesnt require tuning.

 

JRP. I know you're pretty well experienced and I respect your knowledge but I don't agree. I been running the cam almost 2 years. I think it's a great cam. I'm happy with it.

 

i know enough HC owners personally to say eitherwise. but im glad yours is running good. problem is alot of people think the HC is plug and play like the ls6 cam and its far from it.