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Old 02-02-2005, 10:35 PM
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If you're on the street a lot, I'd look into something in the 230 range for duration. That way you won't give up to much tq down low. It will make street driving more fun and less of a headache also.
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Originally Posted by madpwr1
this thread is

he only wants a BIG cam cause it's the new fad ... just put in a tr224 and call it a day
not everyone wants the "me too" cam

ive seen the tr224 run, its lopes waay too hard for the performance.
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I would reccomment something in the 230 range as well. Its about as big as you can go to be COMPLETLEY streetable.
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I suggest the FMS F12 (230/230 112 LSA), only because I have one. Very streetable, lopes and pulls hard.
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Trex VE's (approximately):

IVO - 11
IVC - 51
EVO - 58
EVC - 10

21* overlap @ .050

G.A.C VE's

IVO - 14.5
IVC - 44.5
EVO - 52.5
EVC - 18.5

33* overlap @ .050



what i come up with using the spec's that are given. trex is the bigger lobe
Old 02-03-2005, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by nspr8td lt1
not everyone wants the "me too" cam

ive seen the tr224 run, its lopes waay too hard for the performance.


let me guess what cam you have ... most likely g5x3, g5x4, or trex ... you're right not everyone does want the "me too" cam
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Originally Posted by madpwr1


let me guess what cam you have ... most likely g5x3, g5x4, or trex ... you're right not everyone does want the "me too" cam
i have a g5x4 for now, im getting a custom grind from my engine builder in about 6 months.

there are only about 5 cars on ls1tech with the g5x4. how many have the tr224? i know of at least 5 cars with that cam locally, it lopes harder than a mti t1 and makes less power. so why go with it?
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Originally Posted by nspr8td lt1
i have a g5x4 for now, im getting a custom grind from my engine builder in about 6 months.

there are only about 5 cars on ls1tech with the g5x4. how many have the tr224? i know of at least 5 cars with that cam locally, it lopes harder than a mti t1 and makes less power. so why go with it?
1)proven performer
2)nice sounding idle
3)very very streetable
4)there is a reason that everyone has it, it's a good f'n cam!
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cool guys yall have been really helpful and thanks alot for the last post jrp. ive been looking on ur cam guide. i think ive decided on the trex. so far ive calculated 3k and i dont even have the car. o well ill look thru the search what else i should get. beside the obvious. headerss, intake, and a cam kit from thunder.

is there guy on here that represents thunderracing? i know they are a sponsor so i was hoping iu could talk so someone. if anyone know please let me know. thanks a million.
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jason99ta, angie, paul, are all representatives of TR.

dont forget to factor in 4.11's also
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Originally Posted by nspr8td lt1
i have a g5x4 for now, im getting a custom grind from my engine builder in about 6 months.

there are only about 5 cars on ls1tech with the g5x4. how many have the tr224? i know of at least 5 cars with that cam locally, it lopes harder than a mti t1 and makes less power. so why go with it?
cause only a handful of people have had success with these BIG cams and a lot have had the same results as if they had a tr224, how many BIG cam 10 sec cam only cars are out there? ... most BIG cams run 11's and a tr224 will get you an 11 sec slip too ... maybe i missed the point of goin that big when it doesn't do anything
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In addition to the Futral and others mentioned, take a look at the TSP cams, the 233/239 makes great torque (everyone I've seen and talked to loves that cam), the magic stick/MS3 makes some great numbers as well (again lots of fans on this one) and is in alot of street driven M6 cars. They also have their Giant cam which is just a massive bumpstick, also a 235/240 would be interesting but not alot of them are out there yet. All of these are streetable in an M6 car depending on rear gears and your personal driving habits/style. Personally I'm about to do the 233/239 for the tq curve since that is what moves the car, not the hp IMO.

Big cams can result in changing the springs out more often too, so they are not a drop in and forget about it mod at all to my knowledge. The rest of the valve train needs to be closely looked at too when going into anything over 220 from what I've learned.
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Originally Posted by nspr8td lt1
i have a g5x4 for now, im getting a custom grind from my engine builder in about 6 months.

there are only about 5 cars on ls1tech with the g5x4. how many have the tr224? i know of at least 5 cars with that cam locally, it lopes harder than a mti t1 and makes less power. so why go with it?
WHATS UP WITH TH3E G5X4? Im going with the G5X3 and wanted to take one look before my decision. what about the T-rex?
Old 02-03-2005, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Joker
also a 235/240 would be interesting but not alot of them are out there yet.
I'll have a TSP 235/240 up and running soon, so I'll be posting my first impressions. I'll be running it in an M6 car with home ported heads, home PCM tunning, long tubes, and 4.11 gears. My previous cam was a TR224 114, so it should be an interesting comparison in terms of streetability and peak power.
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Originally Posted by NO5.0
WHATS UP WITH TH3E G5X4? Im going with the G5X3 and wanted to take one look before my decision. what about the T-rex?
the g5x4 is a little bigger than the x3, its on a 113lsa, do a search on 01-z, he had both cams, his car moved alot harder with the x4, the x3 is a much more street friendly cam though.
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Originally Posted by madpwr1
cause only a handful of people have had success with these BIG cams and a lot have had the same results as if they had a tr224, how many BIG cam 10 sec cam only cars are out there? ... most BIG cams run 11's and a tr224 will get you an 11 sec slip too ... maybe i missed the point of goin that big when it doesn't do anything
Dude you need to calm down. This is the second time I've been tempted to reply with a temper to your posts. Last time if you recall, it didn't go so well. Why must you be an instigator so often? If other people don't agree with you, so what. If you really have to voice your opinion so hotly about everything then call Oprah or Sally Jesse Raphael. Quite bitching on the forum please, its a waste of everyones time.
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Originally Posted by madpwr1
cause only a handful of people have had success with these BIG cams and a lot have had the same results as if they had a tr224, how many BIG cam 10 sec cam only cars are out there? ... most BIG cams run 11's and a tr224 will get you an 11 sec slip too ... maybe i missed the point of goin that big when it doesn't do anything
You buy the cam for potential... the reason why some of the big cam only cars do 'only as well' as the tr224 is that the stock heads don't flow well enough to support the extra lift/duration. However, add some nice high flowing heads to the equation and I guarantee the big cam wins hands down. If the platform is set up perfectly for each cam, the bigger cam will win... it's simple physics.

If I planned on staying cam only forever, I'd probably have gone with a 224 or a 228 cam at most... since I'm sure I'll want some heads and an lsx intake at some point, I went with a cam that will match well with those mods in the future, but still do well for me today.
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Originally Posted by cyphur_traq
Dude you need to calm down. This is the second time I've been tempted to reply with a temper to your posts. Last time if you recall, it didn't go so well. Why must you be an instigator so often? If other people don't agree with you, so what. If you really have to voice your opinion so hotly about everything then call Oprah or Sally Jesse Raphael. Quite bitching on the forum please, its a waste of everyones time.
i think you're the one that needs to calm down ... i ain't bitchin bout nothin ... you're bitchin bout my post

the guy wanted help in choosin a cam ... i thought he'd be better off with a cam that's more streetable and proven then just jumpin on the bigger is better bandwagon ... i got a response askin why would i recommend the cam i did when a bigger cam would give better results and i replied accordingly ... i could of chose my words more carefully, but i don't really care

so when you decide to get off my nuts let me know, in the mean time
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Originally Posted by Tranzor_Z28
If the platform is set up perfectly for each cam, the bigger cam will win... it's simple physics.
this is absolutely true ... but most people don't and would of been better off with the smaller cam


stevensls1 has chosen his cam, trex, and i wish you all the luck ... hope everything works out as planned
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Originally Posted by madpwr1
i think you're the one that needs to calm down ... i ain't bitchin bout nothin ... you're bitchin bout my post
I'm not upset. Nor do I find a problem with you giving people advice on cams. My question was why do you choose to have such an attitude when people disagree with you. It takes a lot more than just a cam to get into the 10's, but a Trex would definitely help. JS has put a LOT of effort into gettin into the tens w/the 224, but he needed heads to do it. Not everyone wants a small cam either....some like the sound of a big one. To each their own, but I think you should get off everyone elses' nuts about liking big cams. And no...I'm not going to run a BIG cam. I'm most likely going to be running an FM9, specs 232/236. Not too BIG when you compare them.



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