big cam statement
Originally Posted by bobby1
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Originally Posted by soundengineer
JRP Knows his stuff......
dont just go calling people chicken **** just because they decide not to chime in with the words you want to see.....
try to tell an NHRA Champion that Big cams Suck...they will laugh at you so hard that they will probably pee themselves....and then they will ask you to please leave the racetrack.....
I have had 2 pro street drag cars that have went high 6's low 7's in the 1/4.....they both had HUGE cams compared to a TREX....you dont go high 6's or low 7's with a small cam
try to do that on your measly 224/228 cam in your signature....not gonna happen....
to ALL of those that think big cams suck.....
they only suck if YOUR setup cant handle the cam...
you cant compare 1 cam to another on a mostly stock car...
hmmm....lets see......
mostly stock car...
Shitty airflow...shitty airflow....shitty airflow....shitty exhaust flow.....that pretty much sums up a stock car....
so lets add the goodies...
LId...bigger MAF and TB...better flowing intake... better flowing heads better combustion spark better exhaust release....better valves and valvetrain, better bottom end, lighter bottom end and balanced bottom end, better oiling, better cooling, and thats only a START to the many many things you can really add to a car.... even then most cars are not steup properly to Handle a BIG cam.
I like... big... cams and I cannot lie.....(sorry..had a song in my head thanks to the radio)
Just because a smaller cam makes more power for your car...(and you have to go down the track to find that out) doesnt mean the big cams suck..... it just means your car isnt ready to be a big boy cam yet.
dont just go calling people chicken **** just because they decide not to chime in with the words you want to see.....
try to tell an NHRA Champion that Big cams Suck...they will laugh at you so hard that they will probably pee themselves....and then they will ask you to please leave the racetrack.....
I have had 2 pro street drag cars that have went high 6's low 7's in the 1/4.....they both had HUGE cams compared to a TREX....you dont go high 6's or low 7's with a small cam
try to do that on your measly 224/228 cam in your signature....not gonna happen....
to ALL of those that think big cams suck.....
they only suck if YOUR setup cant handle the cam...
you cant compare 1 cam to another on a mostly stock car...
hmmm....lets see......
mostly stock car...
Shitty airflow...shitty airflow....shitty airflow....shitty exhaust flow.....that pretty much sums up a stock car....
so lets add the goodies...
LId...bigger MAF and TB...better flowing intake... better flowing heads better combustion spark better exhaust release....better valves and valvetrain, better bottom end, lighter bottom end and balanced bottom end, better oiling, better cooling, and thats only a START to the many many things you can really add to a car.... even then most cars are not steup properly to Handle a BIG cam.
I like... big... cams and I cannot lie.....(sorry..had a song in my head thanks to the radio)
Just because a smaller cam makes more power for your car...(and you have to go down the track to find that out) doesnt mean the big cams suck..... it just means your car isnt ready to be a big boy cam yet.
try to tell an NHRA Champion that Big cams Suck...they will laugh at you so hard that they will probably pee themselves....and then they will ask you to please leave the racetrack..... Good point here but they are also running 500 something cubic inches(pro stock), its not really the same game.
Originally Posted by jrp
did you not read the first post 
threads getting so long I couldnt find it.ok read it. I will say this. It seems like its has potential to make good power. untuned my tq was higher than my hp. But untuned the numbers he listed are very hard to believe. Who knows for sure without the graph being posted. I'm being nice for once.
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After careful consideration, I have decided a stock cam, maybe even smaller will make my car the fastest...... so from now on its a stock cam for me, becuase it makes the most TQ at 800-1500 rpm and thats where I race at 
on a more serious note, why do people have to knock proven cams, its just rediculous, we should make all these noobs read more before they are allowed to post crap like this, haha.
on a more serious note, why do people have to knock proven cams, its just rediculous, we should make all these noobs read more before they are allowed to post crap like this, haha.
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Originally Posted by Nickn20
After careful consideration, I have decided a stock cam, maybe even smaller will make my car the fastest...... so from now on its a stock cam for me, becuase it makes the most TQ at 800-1500 rpm and thats where I race at
on a more serious note, why do people have to knock proven cams, its just rediculous, we should make all these noobs read more before they are allowed to post crap like this, haha.
on a more serious note, why do people have to knock proven cams, its just rediculous, we should make all these noobs read more before they are allowed to post crap like this, haha.
BTW My offer to host still stands, as does the easy option to use tinypic.com hosting...
people feel the need to bash proven cams b/c they can. they want to be different.
you wanna be different? get a truely custom cam like jrp, totally mapped to your heads, and have spent countless hours trying to plan your entire setup to complement itself. not enough people do that anymore......
you wanna be different? get a truely custom cam like jrp, totally mapped to your heads, and have spent countless hours trying to plan your entire setup to complement itself. not enough people do that anymore......
i don't think you can win with this guy.no matter if you prove him wrong,he will just come back with bull#@ numbers.he doesn't know what he's talking about so he just lies to try to make himself look good.you can't argue with ignorant people
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Originally Posted by cyphur_traq
people feel the need to bash proven cams b/c they can. they want to be different.
you wanna be different? get a truely custom cam like jrp, totally mapped to your heads, and have spent countless hours trying to plan your entire setup to complement itself. not enough people do that anymore......
you wanna be different? get a truely custom cam like jrp, totally mapped to your heads, and have spent countless hours trying to plan your entire setup to complement itself. not enough people do that anymore......
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Originally Posted by Brandon
eh, F14 Graph v2 not much more but more power under the curve.
Post some graphs man, its not hard to run to kinkos or find a local friend with a scanner or digital camera. Hell I'll even host the graph(s) for you.
Post some graphs man, its not hard to run to kinkos or find a local friend with a scanner or digital camera. Hell I'll even host the graph(s) for you.
Originally Posted by bobby1
2000 ta with 395 rwhp!not tuned or ls6 intake 
hmm..thats funny... I just got this in a mail from this site....
not exactly what you posted...
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Originally Posted by cyphur_traq
bobby1......i'd worry more about your preposterous numbers and out of this world claims before you start knockin on a proven cam, professionally tuned. I'd love to roll down w/Brandon and watch him wax your ***. I'll bring the digital video cam so everyone on the board can watch!!!
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Originally Posted by SMOKIN01TA
can i play this game too, he was raggin on my cam too 
the real deal(on the magazine article) is that they picked a cam that is matched to the heads already on the car.....
the hotcam is possibly the most perfectly matched cam to the stock ls1 engine.........which is why it is so popular among people who want a cam and dont want to do a shitload of other mods to get power and dont want insane stress on the valvetrain.....
teh reason you make power down low is because your heads do the right job there...and dont get any better.....
try some ported and polished heads..stage 2..stage 3...I dont care what.....
you will loose some power down low(or get no noticable gains down low)..and gain it up high..... its just normal engine dynamics....
the hotcam is possibly the most perfectly matched cam to the stock ls1 engine.........which is why it is so popular among people who want a cam and dont want to do a shitload of other mods to get power and dont want insane stress on the valvetrain.....
teh reason you make power down low is because your heads do the right job there...and dont get any better.....
try some ported and polished heads..stage 2..stage 3...I dont care what.....
you will loose some power down low(or get no noticable gains down low)..and gain it up high..... its just normal engine dynamics....
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Originally Posted by Brandon
Smokin, man dont even try! He is a true badass, your car doesnt stand a chance, its JUST a TRex....
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Originally Posted by Brandon
Because they new people are the ****! We are all 'old skool' 'techers and dont know ****.
BTW My offer to host still stands, as does the easy option to use tinypic.com hosting...
BTW My offer to host still stands, as does the easy option to use tinypic.com hosting...
