xfactor_pitbulls

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Actually Ms. Powell you are right. MTI did flow them and the numbers were in that range and I admit that was a set I practiced on when I was just getting going, admittingly not knowing any of the finer points. You know I tried to be a nice guy and apologize, you just had to bring it back. Monday I will scan a flow sheet from my latest set of 5.3 heads just for you to see, I am not a site sponsor so hadnt seen the need before now.

Brandon

Mr Powell

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How about this.. when you make something FAST then come talk.. These guys have... You just hate because of ignorance.. but its ok..

beardWS6

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Chill Powell before you hurt your back again. Hows it going? I still need to get by G-Force to drop the rims off for Jay! After the plug issue and fuel shortage they fixed, car is running pretty good!

BUYAMERICAN

Brandon,
I do have flow sheets, do not have pictures. Richard at West Coast Cylinder Head & MTI can put out some pretty mean product. I can e-mail them to you, the files are to big to post here.

MRI-TEK

"Dude" No need to be so sorry , practice will make you a better head porter. What makes you think you are the only one who spent $$ on a "TRUE" bench ? What your saying is that what these "shops" are advertising on their flow #'s are bullshit because these reputable shops dont have a "TRUE" flow bench like you've flowed on ?? LOL . Now my friend , I believe that these shops have "more than adequate machinery , tools & most importantly the SKILL " .

Start Chewing !!

You are going to have to a whole lot better than 100.00 & shipping if you want to see what my little 241 casting heads flow . This is what it will take because Im not doing any favors for you ..
1.) Cost of removal & installation of heads from shop of my choice .
2.) A 3500.00 deposit Just incase I dont get my heads back from you & have to duplicate them ( which I dont think I will once you find out what they flow on your "Super duper flow bench") . Hell youll probably install them on your own car !! Im j/k
3.) I keep half of your deposit once you find my numbers are correct , most of the time its costly to judge , or make mistakes .

What do you say ? PLease dont take the sarcasm seriously ..

I got in on this a little late .

ROCNDAV

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So...um....once again, what did it cost to get the heads ported to these flow numbers? and did that price include a core?

David

xfactor_pitbulls

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Well as I said last night I apologize for how I approached the whole thing. Next, I do not see myself in any way to be an authority. Just someone that has some practical experience. No pro by any means. Dude if you have 241 heads that flow those numbers, then they are an engineering marvel, to me anyways. Take what I say with a grain of salt. Especially when it is Friday and I started drinking at the oyster bar around 2:00 yesterday

Brandon

MRI-TEK

Sorry 1BDHWK , I didnt mean for your thread to go into a pissing match . Just nice to see #'s like yours & mine coming from the same shop (LME) . Again , those are impressive flow #'s . It honestly doesn't surprise me coming from a shop of this caliber..

1BDHWK

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PM sent.

Thanks Rob, I understand. There are always some naysayers. It will fun getting this monster down the track.

Here are a few pics:

xssive

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Those look very similar to my TEA Stage 3 Jusdon Port 317's.

ex. int.
.1" 59.5 69.7
.2" 124.9 137.6
.3" 178.4 202.7
.4" 227.8 260.9
.5" 263.4 300.6
.55" 272.7 317.2
.6 " 280.9 332.3

Bryan@LME

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I just wanted to thank all of the people that posted who have seen these heads flowed or other sets that have similar numbers. The heads were flowed on our bench and at S.A.M. by Casey Snyder. The numbers were almost identicle throughout the range. We (LME) are professionals and take every measure to ensure that our flow tests are as accurate as possible and we have no intention of misleading our clients. Regardless.. its the numbers at the track that we are most concerned about.

I encourage anyone to come to the shop and check out some of our ports and our test equipment. If you come by in the next few days we should have a set of AFR's for a solid roller set up that we are building. We are looking for 240 to 250 on the int. side. The heads were sent to us as CNC'd 225's. The heads back up at .600" lift out of the box. The biggest challenge is to keep them from getting turbulent throughout the .750" lift that the valves will see.

Thanks for your support,

Bryan Neelen
LME
713-849-4505

1BDHWK

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Thank you for everything Byran! I can't wait to get this thing in and running. I've got alot of work ahead of me. Thank you again for the pics. I'm not sure what is going on with them here on the board. When Raegan is ready to step up to the plate with her car, we will be giving you a call again.

Just waiting for the phone call so I can go pick up the new beast!

Mr Powell

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1BDHWK - What alot of people do not understand is how much these guys put into the LS1 industry in Texas. I know there is S.A.M. (With Casey, Judson, etc..) but they are a custom company, not something you nor I could just go in and buy stuff. Like I have said many of times, thse guys do the right stuff. They will not try to screw you like some machine shops will. When I first came to Pecos and Bryan I had a cracked old style MTI Sleeved block. I was almost dead set on resleeving every cracked sleeve, there was 1 BIG crack and 2 on their way out. They COULD have resleeve those 3 broken ones and made a ton of $$$ off of it, but because they knew it would happen again they got me in the 408ci motor I have now. Now thats not the half of it.. they had to deal with me coming to the shop ever 2 or 3 days a week for awhile because I was over in the area alot, and had no problem bullshiting with me and explaining to me every thing. If it were not for these guys I really doubt my car would be as fast as it is today. They built the motors in the BlueGoose (The 8sec Houston LS1), BadBlueSS, MRI-TEK, PaiN, Paco, FasTech, and MANY others.

Trust me if you have any doubts on these guys work, they will show you how everything works at their shop. I still go by there every few weeks to drop stuff off for G-Force and get to watch them build some really bad *** motors.

kumar75150

Guys, LME is very stand up operation. They are not fudging any numbers. I felt comfortable enough about their reputation to have them build my motor.

Flow benches do vary. A friend of mine just had his TEA stage 3 heads flowed at LME late last week and they flowed around 330cfm.

I am gonna have my heads flowed there this week when I go down and visit the guys.

Quit hatin!!!

1BDHWK

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Chris,

That's the exact reason I went with LME. Bryan was honest and very helpful. They will always get my business when it comes to building motors. And hopefully, I can be close to as fast as some of the cars you mentioned.

Ben

Race Car Driver

Actually, I have never seen or heard of an LS1/6 head flowing 350 on the intake @ .600, but I guess it could be done.

My heads flow over 600 cfm on the intake, oops, I digress off topic.

ForceFed HP

these heads are NOT TEA heads, they are FFHP heads, TEA did the CNC work and the runners are no where near 250cc's on the intake, more like 238cc's
you can not compare apples to oranges.

BTW I in no way mean to sound as if I am knocking LME's heads as I am not. Stage 3 heads are almost always a custom setup to meet a particular need, a 408ci N2O motor will make good use of a 250cc intake, an N/A setup is not suited to such a large intake volume.

Good Job LME

Nine Ball

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You guys drop the pissing match and take it to Private Message please. That means you too Powell

LME is a relatively new shop, but the guys running it have been building LS1s for several years. Pecos put the engine in my old Formula together. It ran pretty good

Tony

verbs

TEA did that a year ago with their stg. 3 heads for a superstroker.

Brian Tooley Racing

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To say that "LME is now and has always inflated everything they do" is out of line because you don't know, granted the 241 flow #'s don't seem right, and a professional porter shouldn't laugh at a 317 head that flows 340.

There is probably 20 cfm difference in the valve job we use and what most people have, and we don't give out that information.

We didn't valve job or hand finish the heads

I'm flattered, but I would also like to think TEA has more talent then Brodix or AFR. We get a Brodix Neal SBF head to flow way more air (440 cfm) then Brodix or Al Neal who created it and our factory LS castings outpower anything that AFR has come up with.

Lets use a AFR 205 for reference flow #'s, they go 302-303 on our bench, we have seen a LS6 head go almost 360 @ .600". There are some SERIOUS LS head porters out there, I am not one of them, however, I was smart enough to hire the SAM employee who did our original Judson port design. We were stuck at 320 @ .600", Judson sent us a head 2 years ago that went 330 @ .600" and now Paris Pugliese who worked at SAM and did the original Judson port, did a port when he went to work for TEA a year ago that goes 340 @ .600"

So, just like I have told Tony Mamo before, "I have never walked on the face of the moon and never will, however, someone else did it 37 years ago, so just because you can't do it, doesn't mean it can't be done" in other words, there are some VERY intelligent people out there doing this stuff, so don't underestimate their abilities.