Are Super 7 Locks Worth Getting
Originally Posted by JZ'sTA
"Patriot will use the new locks 100% of the time.Good bye to the stock locks."
This quote was from Terry on 1/16/2004 when he was with PP.
This quote was from Terry on 1/16/2004 when he was with PP.
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Originally Posted by cyphur_traq
I saw that as well. Hmm....wonder why? Maybe they had to make the PRC's competitive in price so they had to cut something out? I dunno. But I do know I'd rather pay a few extra bucks for better parts than skimp and screw myself in the long run.
Since the arrival of better springs there has been no failures with the stock locks.In the past I believe the valve springs was just poor quality.I would run the stock valve locks on my personal vehicle with any hydraulic roller cam on the market.I am not convinced there is a need for aftermarket locks on a hydraulic roller setup,solid roller,yes.I am going to try and set up an appointment with a friend who has a spintron machine.I want to perform some test with stock vs. aftermarket locks.Maybe I can do this in the next month or so.Anyone have a damaged LS1 block to setup for the spintron?
There is nothing cut take make PRC competitive in price.There is no way that PRC will sell a lesser quality spring kit vs. others on the market.PRC will only sell the best.At this time,PRC is testing a better quality valvespring.Hopefully this product will be out real soon.
We include the Super 7 locks in our kit because we strive to give our customers the best quality at the best price. Instead of asking customers to dig out their nasty, old, worn out, stamped locks, we provide a high quality machined lock for our customers to use. All of our titanium is 100% American. Attached is a pic of our Romi CNC lathe.
It comes down to weight for me, the stock locks are lighter, will RPM better and we have never had a failure.
To add to this, about 6 years ago a buddy of mine in BG, KY was running the "Worlds Fastest Small Block Camaro" in the NMCA events, you may remember this car. The engine was built by Pat Musi and routinely turned 9000 RPM, the heads had standard 7 degree locks, not super 7's and not 10 degree's. I will include a link to our web site with the weights of valvetrain components.
BTW, we always clean our locks before we install them, our NEW 5.3 castings come with NEW locks, where as the PP castings were bare and they had to buy some type of lock from somewhere.
http://www.totalengineairflow.com/te...ainweights.php
To add to this, about 6 years ago a buddy of mine in BG, KY was running the "Worlds Fastest Small Block Camaro" in the NMCA events, you may remember this car. The engine was built by Pat Musi and routinely turned 9000 RPM, the heads had standard 7 degree locks, not super 7's and not 10 degree's. I will include a link to our web site with the weights of valvetrain components.
BTW, we always clean our locks before we install them, our NEW 5.3 castings come with NEW locks, where as the PP castings were bare and they had to buy some type of lock from somewhere.
http://www.totalengineairflow.com/te...ainweights.php
Actually, our 5.3 heads do come to us complete. If anyone needs any stock locks, just give us a call we will be glad to give you a great deal on some, just to get them out our way.
Also if a company were worried about profits only and needed locks for their products, they would not spend the extra money it takes to buy the machined super 7 locks. They would simply supply the stamped, OEM locks with their products.
Also if a company were worried about profits only and needed locks for their products, they would not spend the extra money it takes to buy the machined super 7 locks. They would simply supply the stamped, OEM locks with their products.
Last edited by Gunnar@Patriot; Apr 8, 2005 at 11:35 AM. Reason: spelling
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From: RainbowCity,Alabama
Originally Posted by KGSloan
i think it's funny when people say things like titanium is titanium no matter where it is from. or stainless steel is stainless steel no matter what grade it is.
someone should tell my boss that all forms or carbon steel and stainless steel are the same. we could save a TON of money by just buying the cheaper grades all the time.
...of course, we might have a huge gas explosion, a dozen dead shop workers, and a big lawsuit on our hands, but we saved some money in the process so it is ok. no all metals are created equal.
that being said, i have no idea of the quality of PP titanium. it may be just fine, it may not be...
someone should tell my boss that all forms or carbon steel and stainless steel are the same. we could save a TON of money by just buying the cheaper grades all the time.
...of course, we might have a huge gas explosion, a dozen dead shop workers, and a big lawsuit on our hands, but we saved some money in the process so it is ok. no all metals are created equal.
that being said, i have no idea of the quality of PP titanium. it may be just fine, it may not be...
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From: Texas and Qatar
Originally Posted by Gunnar@Patriot
We include the Super 7 locks in our kit because we strive to give our customers the best quality at the best price. Instead of asking customers to dig out their nasty, old, worn out, stamped locks, we provide a high quality machined lock for our customers to use. All of our titanium is 100% American. Attached is a pic of our Romi CNC lathe.
We've seen a few Super 7 locks break on install at our machine shop, but were told that something was out of spec, either the PP valves or the PP retainers. FWIW Manley makes a hardened lock kit now for stock type locks that I recently installed with the PRC kit on an employee's car. To be honest I've never ever seen a problem with stock locks at all though. I buzz them to 7200+ on some cars. 
BTW, Terry is not the owner of PRC (for those that didn't know), he is a reseller of PRC the same as TSP is and many others.
Last edited by -Joseph-; Apr 8, 2005 at 11:45 AM.
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From: Warr Acres, OK
Originally Posted by -Joseph-
BTW, Terry is not the owner of PRC (for those that didn't know), he is a reseller of PRC the same as TSP is and many others.
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