LS6 block ever in a camaro?
04-18-2005 | 08:13 PM
#22
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Staging Lane
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LOL! I'm cam broke, but I'm far from broke. It's tough modding the car when I'm not supposed to be modding anymore. The wife knows about modding. She's been sitting shotgun with her older brother as he rally raced in Jamaica.
04-18-2005 | 10:52 PM
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I thought that 10% of 2001 and 25% of 2002 Fbody V-8s came with the LS6 block.
In my oppinion, if you added Z06 heads and cam to a 2001 C-5 Coupe the numbers would be the same on the dyno but at the track, the Z06 would edge out the coupe slightly due to 2 factors:
1. Weight
2. Differences in transmission gearing: M12 in the Z06 and MN6 in the Coupe. An M-12 with 3.42's is more like running an MN6 with 3.90 rear gears.
With a good cam selection (like FM13/G5X2 or 3) on your current setup and an LS6 intake I can't imagine you not being able to walk a Z06.
You wouldn't even need headwork.
BTW, Nice looking ride!
In my oppinion, if you added Z06 heads and cam to a 2001 C-5 Coupe the numbers would be the same on the dyno but at the track, the Z06 would edge out the coupe slightly due to 2 factors:
1. Weight
2. Differences in transmission gearing: M12 in the Z06 and MN6 in the Coupe. An M-12 with 3.42's is more like running an MN6 with 3.90 rear gears.
With a good cam selection (like FM13/G5X2 or 3) on your current setup and an LS6 intake I can't imagine you not being able to walk a Z06.
You wouldn't even need headwork.
BTW, Nice looking ride!
04-18-2005 | 10:56 PM
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I don't think that the gearing in the Z06s are any different. For example, the Z06 and an FRC both have 3:46 gearing. The differential is built stronger in a Z06, but it's not any "faster." However, the weight is something to contend with. I mean, am I really gonna get lighter windows in the car? hehe.
04-19-2005 | 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SJTrance
I don't think that the gearing in the Z06s are any different. For example, the Z06 and an FRC both have 3:46 gearing. The differential is built stronger in a Z06, but it's not any "faster." However, the weight is something to contend with. I mean, am I really gonna get lighter windows in the car? hehe.
Quote from Z06.Com
Originally Posted by z06.com
M12 6-Speed Manual
This transmission is unique to the Z06, and is the only transmission available for that model. It is not available on Corvette coupes or convertibles. It has more aggressive gearing to increase torque multiplication in most forward gears, allowing for more rapid acceleration and more usable torque at higher speeds. A transmission temperature sensor was added to protect the M12 from higher thermal stresses. The sensor warns the driver via the Driver Information Center with a TRANS OVER TEMP light if thermal loads become excessive, meaning that the transmission could be damaged if not allowed to cool down.
Gear Ratios
LS1/MM6 LS6/M12
1st Gear 2.66:1 2.97:1
2d Gear 1.78:1 2.07:1
3d Gear 1.30:1 1.43:1
4th Gear 1.00:1 1.00:1
5th Gear 0.74:1 0.84:1
6th Gear 0.50:1 0.56:1
Reverse 2.90:1 3.28:1
This transmission is unique to the Z06, and is the only transmission available for that model. It is not available on Corvette coupes or convertibles. It has more aggressive gearing to increase torque multiplication in most forward gears, allowing for more rapid acceleration and more usable torque at higher speeds. A transmission temperature sensor was added to protect the M12 from higher thermal stresses. The sensor warns the driver via the Driver Information Center with a TRANS OVER TEMP light if thermal loads become excessive, meaning that the transmission could be damaged if not allowed to cool down.
Gear Ratios
LS1/MM6 LS6/M12
1st Gear 2.66:1 2.97:1
2d Gear 1.78:1 2.07:1
3d Gear 1.30:1 1.43:1
4th Gear 1.00:1 1.00:1
5th Gear 0.74:1 0.84:1
6th Gear 0.50:1 0.56:1
Reverse 2.90:1 3.28:1
04-19-2005 | 12:03 PM
#28
Originally Posted by SJTrance
Whoa! A contradictory statement. I'm tuned back in. Anyone like to respond? Better breathing must mean more power, right?
better distribution of crankcase pressure, reducing crankcase windage...power gains would be minimal and only at very high rpms
04-19-2005 | 12:53 PM
#29
Originally Posted by oange ss
better breathing ,not oiling
Originally Posted by oange ss
better distribution of crankcase pressure, reducing crankcase windage...power gains would be minimal and only at very high rpms
but the main point is, you're not going to gain 25hp by having an ls6 block.
04-19-2005 | 12:57 PM
#30
and SJ, do you have a stall in your car? if so how big? a nice 3500+ and a 230+ duration cam (fm13, g5x3, trex 
etc.) tuned well, along with your boltons + LS6 intake, and some underdrive pulleys, you should be able to get out in front of a z06.
etc.) tuned well, along with your boltons + LS6 intake, and some underdrive pulleys, you should be able to get out in front of a z06.
04-19-2005 | 04:09 PM
#31
Originally Posted by TheBlurLS1
better breathing inside the crankcase, not breathing into the engine (as in more fuel/air).
i consider this to be an oiling related subject, which is what i was referring to in my first post
but the main point is, you're not going to gain 25hp by having an ls6 block.
i consider this to be an oiling related subject, which is what i was referring to in my first post
but the main point is, you're not going to gain 25hp by having an ls6 block.
