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Old 04-27-2005, 04:22 PM
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The highest i could get on my comp cam and lsx was close to 370rwhp this is on an a4. It was also a used before i got it, This cam that i have right now, its in my sig. My question is Switching to a brand new TSP 231/237 how much power increase should i see?

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Should be close to 400WHP with good tuning.
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Should be in Internal Section or Dyno.
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oops, sorry my fault. click on wrong topic section.

i should be close to 400? thats intresting i just want to make sure im gettin my moneys worth if i buy this cam and switch them. Also would this cam be not so good for a semi daily driver?
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Originally Posted by 99CamaroSS_
oops, sorry my fault. click on wrong topic section.

i should be close to 400? thats intresting i just want to make sure im gettin my moneys worth if i buy this cam and switch them. Also would this cam be not so good for a semi daily driver?
This cam is fine for a semi-daily driver... I definitely don't mind tooling around even at low rpms in stop & go traffic.

As for your goals though... I'm not sure if you'll reach it. Afterall, this cam doesn't look all that much bigger than the one you got already. You might pick up 5-10 rwhp or so at most, and all at the top end (over 5k rpms).

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I agree. You probably won't gain anymore than 10 PEAK horsespower.
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not worth it...
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i feel like my cam right now is litteraly **** though, it dosent feel well driving it, and ive had it tuned a few times to try to fix, bad idles and such. I feel like i just need a New and not used cam, One that will give me a little better power and better drivability as well.

oh and by the way about a couple weeks ago, i pulled it back on the dyno and we ran it a few times and did some tuning couldnt get it past 358rwhp. When i first got it installed i was at about 368rwhp and the weather and air and such were about the same. I think replacing the cam might be better for it anyways.

i also start at about 50 psi when i crank it, and then start driving it will jump in between 20-35 psi depending on if your at a stop or on the gas. Dont know what thats about either, that all started after we put the comp cam in. Before that it was at a constant 40 at all times.

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im pretty sure replacing the cam will make it run and feel better and help with the oil as well correct?
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I agree with the others, if blindfolded I don't think you will be able to tell a difference between this cam and the old one, unless the LSA is different. Cam has no bearing on the oil presure, unless it made the engine idle too slow, and that's a tunning issue. It won't feel any different at all unless you are going to a wider LSA. Big cams make the engine idle rough; you can't change that. Roller cams don't wear very fast, so just putting in a newer one isn't going to make a difference either.
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I agree with the others, if blindfolded I don't think you will be able to tell a difference between this cam and the old one, unless the LSA is different. Cam has no bearing on the oil presure, unless it made the engine idle too slow, and that's a tunning issue. It won't feel any different at all unless you are going to a wider LSA. Big cams make the engine idle rough; you can't change that. Roller cams don't wear very fast, so just putting in a newer one isn't going to make a difference either.
So its totaly pointless than to swap cams... i have been told ill see at least 10-20+ from these 2 cams. I would buy heads but i dont have that kind of money.
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i feel like my dyno numbers and power numbers are low, and i think it has a lot to do with this cam.
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You should check your tune; have you had a wide band on it? Checked for knock retard?
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yes 2 both. its been tuned 3 times since i had that cam. Checked for everything, and again. Thats why i said i think i either got jipped on the cam becuase its used, or its just not preforming at all.
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I too would say you will gain 10 rwhp at the most. I have this cam and I love it. The powerband is higher up than the cam u have now. So I would take that into consideration.
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Originally Posted by 99CamaroSS_
yes 2 both. its been tuned 3 times since i had that cam. Checked for everything, and again. Thats why i said i think i either got jipped on the cam becuase its used, or its just not preforming at all.
Maybe the cam needs to be degreed, or the timing chain is off a tooth. Also, having the wrong pushrod length can reduce power output, because valves don't open all the way or don't go all the way closed. Are you using good gasoline?
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there are much better cams out there....like the f14 that you are also considering...i like this cam and all...but the low end is terrible...and i like driving in the <2000 rpms range around town...to save gas and what not...but when i'm ready to run it sure does open up...the f-14 should give you both...and more power over the tsp231 and better driveability...it's a win-win situation with futral
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thanks 777, thats what i have gathered from people pming me and reading and such, that the f14 will be better. NOW i just have to wait till i can actualy get it, and sell this one i have.
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Just go with the magic stick
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are you sure the cam is installed correctly?
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