Cam Question...not what cam to get...
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Cam Question...not what cam to get... I have decided to get the TR 224/224 .56x/.56x 114 LSA. I realize this will require computer tuning, will it also require me to have a bigger than stock stall converter in my A4, 02 SS? I will be doing some JetHot LTH at the same time and springs/retainers, etc... Did I leave anything out?
Thanks
Jon
Is this a good price? Are the double springs a waste of money with this cam?
Thunder Racing LS1 Cam Swap Package w/ Double Springs $799.99 includes:
- Crane Cams 144832-16 Valve Springs
- Crane Cams 144661 Titanium Retainers
- Crane Cams 144460-16 Hardened Seats
- 11-VS-UV5001-EO Valve Stem Seals
- Thunder Racing Stock Length Pushrods (7.400)
- Change to Comp Cams 63-26921-KIT Spring kit for $175 additional
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Valve Springs: Crane Cams Spring Kit
Gaskets: Cam Gaskets $54.99 $54.99
Year: 2001-2005
99-224/224-114
Thanks
Jon
Is this a good price? Are the double springs a waste of money with this cam?
Thunder Racing LS1 Cam Swap Package w/ Double Springs $799.99 includes:
- Crane Cams 144832-16 Valve Springs
- Crane Cams 144661 Titanium Retainers
- Crane Cams 144460-16 Hardened Seats
- 11-VS-UV5001-EO Valve Stem Seals
- Thunder Racing Stock Length Pushrods (7.400)
- Change to Comp Cams 63-26921-KIT Spring kit for $175 additional
Options
Valve Springs: Crane Cams Spring Kit
Gaskets: Cam Gaskets $54.99 $54.99
Year: 2001-2005
99-224/224-114
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I'd use Comp 918's if possible. GREAT single spring.
From what I remember the only parts you need are:
Cam
Spring kit (usually springs, Ti retainers, plus seats/seals for some such as duals)
pushrods
gasket kit
oil pump: optional, you don't need it
timing chain: optional, get LS2 chain if you like but it's not required
What converter? Don't go too small the frist time around!
Dont forget a tranny cooler with the converer, and maybe a shift kit, plus a tranny temp gauge.
From what I remember the only parts you need are:
Cam
Spring kit (usually springs, Ti retainers, plus seats/seals for some such as duals)
pushrods
gasket kit
oil pump: optional, you don't need it
timing chain: optional, get LS2 chain if you like but it's not required
What converter? Don't go too small the frist time around!
Dont forget a tranny cooler with the converer, and maybe a shift kit, plus a tranny temp gauge. That rear view looks familiar! You will be OK with that cam and the stock converter. Yes I would say dual coil springs are a waste with that cam. Infact, singles would actually work better since they are lighter and have fewer problems with harmonic vibrations, especially the Comp 918's. I ran a TR224 for two years with Comp 918's and they came out after 15,000 miles with the same seat presure as when new. I'm also running 918's with the present cam, which is much bigger and has seen 7000 rpm a few times.
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Thanks guys, I also plan on supercharging the car eventually. If I use a new stall it would be 3200-3400. Not sure which I will go with. I rode in a 3200 stall car the other day and was very impressed with the way it pulled from a dig.
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I thought that would be a good cam for FI. It has a 114 LSA, I wanted the 112 LSA but it seems that would be less FI friendly. What specs would you recommend? 
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As I understand, this cam (224/227 .563/.569 114 LSA) sold by Thunder racing would be the best option if you're planning to supercharge the motor.
PS: Another question: anybody drive with the 224 cam ExceSSive is talking about with a stock stall converter? How does it feel? Thanks.
PS: Another question: anybody drive with the 224 cam ExceSSive is talking about with a stock stall converter? How does it feel? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by SJTrance
As I understand, this cam (224/227 .563/.569 114 LSA) sold by Thunder racing would be the best option if you're planning to supercharge the motor.
PS: Another question: anybody drive with the 224 cam ExceSSive is talking about with a stock stall converter? How does it feel? Thanks.
PS: Another question: anybody drive with the 224 cam ExceSSive is talking about with a stock stall converter? How does it feel? Thanks.
Nice car, I love those rims on that car.
A friend of mine put the 224 cam in an 01 Z last week but he put a 3200 TC in the car the next day and so did not drive it with the stock converter. I wish he had taken me for a ride with the stock TC before he installed the new one.
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I have a Yank SY3500 TC with a 224 cam, but with slightly more lift - not sure about a stock TC, but the combo is great the way I have it.
I think everyone has given you good advise above. Price is fine. Thunder is good.
I think everyone has given you good advise above. Price is fine. Thunder is good.
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Originally Posted by ExceSSive
I thought that would be a good cam for FI. It has a 114 LSA, I wanted the 112 LSA but it seems that would be less FI friendly. What specs would you recommend?
The 224 on a 114 actually might not be that bad of a choice as it has zero overlap and should not blead off boost. Staging Lane
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The BEST thing to do would be to contact a tuner like TR or Futral...hell, even Comp Cams. They must have a LOT more experience than most of us. They'll usually have someone available to talk with you so that they can get you exactly what you want.
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Yes, when you get to the point where you are ready to order a part calling the sponsors and talking to them directly can be very helpfull. Most of them are very helpfull and knowledgeable.
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Having all the right questions to ask is a big step. You think we don't like it when people say "what cam should I get?" without any background info...try calling up a sponsor who is on the clock getting stuff done and do that.....I wonder what you'd end up with? lol
I knew what to ask, etc, got it narrowed down to a few choices with pros and cons between them and didn't make the final decision until I called TSP.
I knew what to ask, etc, got it narrowed down to a few choices with pros and cons between them and didn't make the final decision until I called TSP.
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
I'm not educated enough on FI to recommend a grind. The 224 on a 114 actually might not be that bad of a choice as it has zero overlap and should not blead off boost.
The 224 on a 114 actually might not be that bad of a choice as it has zero overlap and should not blead off boost. Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
I take back what I said. I tend to forget that it has zero overlap @ .05. It does, however, still have overlap. I do think you will want a different grind to optimize a force induced setup.