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Old May 24, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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Comp 236/244 601/612 112 lsa


theres a deal locally on this cam..


would I have any p/v clearance issues?


with a tune could I drive this daily?


what kinda power is possible with full bolt ons and stock heads?


400rwhp?


200 bucks btw
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Old May 24, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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If there is no advance ground into the cam, it "might" fit, but would have to be clayed for accuracy. If there is any advance at all ground in, I wouldn't even bother. Personally, I don't think it would fit at all, but others may beg to differ.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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Why don't you think it will fit? There are several larger cams run in otherwise stock LS1's all the time. I mean, just look at the Trex

With a good tune you could easily drive it daily. You will want steeper gears though. >400 rwhp possible and every car is different.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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I think it would fit but check it to be sure. The difference between a cam with .600 lift and .560 is .040 ... that is about the thickness of a dime. It is not very much. If you looked at 2 valves with one open .560 and the other.600 it would be hard to tell the difference. This doesn't mean you will not have clearance issues but people make a bigger deal about some these clearances than their really is.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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Its do-able , but , you wont . lol
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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 00Z28 Camaro
Its do-able , but , you wont . lol
Why do you say that?
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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Why do you say that?

I know SOM .... enough thread jack back to topic ..........
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Old May 24, 2005 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Why don't you think it will fit? There are several larger cams run in otherwise stock LS1's all the time. I mean, just look at the Trex

With a good tune you could easily drive it daily. You will want steeper gears though. >400 rwhp possible and every car is different.
You guys need to keep in mind that these larger cams your see are DESIGNED to clear stock heads. That means the manufacturers played with valve timing to make them fit within the utmost tightest tolerances. If there is a .005" mill on your heads, they recomend you do not run them. I happen to know the specs on one of the "secret" cams out there that is designed to fit with stock heads. It's intake duration is a comp XE-R 234 cut on a 114 with 4 degrees of advance ground in. It pushes the limits of P/V clearence. The same cam cut on a 112 can be done, but they reccomend you never float a valve or it's over with. That's how unrealistically tight people are running these cams. If he has a 236 XE-R lobe on a 112, I would not run it, espeacially if it has any advance ground in. I wouldn't tell someone information if I didn't have a stack of info to back me up.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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forget it then..


this was just an idea .. woulda been a good deal..

but not worth the risk and the things neccesary I'd have to do to compensate for such a large cam
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Originally Posted by 00Z28 Camaro
Its do-able , but , you wont . lol
HAHA you called that one
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Old May 25, 2005 | 07:28 AM
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I happen to know the specs on one of the "secret" cams out there that is designed to fit with stock heads. It's intake duration is a comp XE-R 234 cut on a 114 with 4 degrees of advance ground in. It pushes the limits of P/V clearence. The same cam cut on a 112 can be done, but they reccomend you never float a valve or it's over with. That's how unrealistically tight people are running these cams.
Almost has to be G5X3.....

Although you seem a little loose with that info considering that they, for some reason, don't want people to know. Oh well.
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You can easily make 400 HP to the wheels with a more conservitive cam and good tuning. Good luck with the project.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Almost has to be G5X3.....

Although you seem a little loose with that info considering that they, for some reason, don't want people to know. Oh well.
The specs on the cam have been posted many times. It's not that big of a secret anymore.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Beast96Z
The specs on the cam have been posted many times. It's not that big of a secret anymore.
I completely missed the specs to the G5X3 being posted. I'll do a search on it and see.....

Edit: I don't see it in search. I did see a thread with both louis and JRP from barely over a montha go (4/20) that stated the specs still weren't known publically.

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