CAM Selection???
Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Typical "My shlong is bigger than yours thinking" 
Stock internals.
This is just an exemple of the many ways to get power and that a big cam is not the only answer. COMBO is
Stock internals.
This is just an exemple of the many ways to get power and that a big cam is not the only answer. COMBO is
I agree combo is a BIG part... but if you run cam only... then there isnt much to the combo equation... but yes a small shot can get tremendous gains... i was under the impression he wanted NA 11's...
i have a big shlong
Sorry, but those bigger bumpsticks are running faster times and putting more power to the rollers. How can you argue with results? Granted I would perfer the drivability of a smaller cam, but I dont expect to run with the big boys either.
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Originally Posted by ty_ty13
I agree combo is a BIG part... but if you run cam only... then there isnt much to the combo equation... but yes a small shot can get tremendous gains... i was under the impression he wanted NA 11's...
i have a big shlong
i have a big shlong
Dyno Cam numbers are only that. Cam only cars running low ET's have a plathera of suporting mods and are very light cars, not your everyday 3650lbs AC driver.
Too many people follow mainstream, and the ones that don't, usualy do not divulge their secrets.
Take Tony Mamos vette, 480+rwhp with a 224/228, I wish people would not deny the truth and emancipate their vision.
I still maintain COMBO is where it is at.
Combo is definetly where it's at, however, CAM SELECTION was the topic of the thread and some goofball decided to post that the F-13 cam was too much cam for the stock heads, when it's been proven time and time again that it's a great grind.
Mike
Mike
Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
TYTY13, Too many people follow mainstream, and the ones that don't, usualy do not divulge their secrets.
Take Tony Mamos vette, 480+rwhp with a 224/228, I wish people would not deny the truth and emancipate their vision.
I still maintain COMBO is where it is at.
Take Tony Mamos vette, 480+rwhp with a 224/228, I wish people would not deny the truth and emancipate their vision.
I still maintain COMBO is where it is at.
Goddamn. I guess that 10SECDWS6 was right... I mean.... look at my horrible dyno graph with my "MASSIVE" cam.
10SECDWS6 forgot to tell you that his car runs 10s... in the 1/8 mile.
10SECDWS6 forgot to tell you that his car runs 10s... in the 1/8 mile.
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From: BFE
Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
Was that vette running stock ls1 heads? Assuming stock heads, what else constitutes a "combo"?
A combo is a complete car set up. From motor down to the thickness of your carpet.
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Verdad Gallardo when i hear combo i think of mainly the motor modifications...
but yes... a good stiff chassis with supporting tractions mods and a light car is definately a big help....
if i sounded like i was arguing with you, you misunderstood.. i was agreeing with you....
except for the big shlong part
but yes... a good stiff chassis with supporting tractions mods and a light car is definately a big help....
if i sounded like i was arguing with you, you misunderstood.. i was agreeing with you....
except for the big shlong part
Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Guits,
A combo is a complete car set up. From motor down to the thickness of your carpet.
A combo is a complete car set up. From motor down to the thickness of your carpet.
Well then of course all these factors will affect the car. I however took this thread as being specifically cam-only. My interpretation assumed basic supporting boltons, a cam, but with the rest being stock, so as to have an even playing field. Perhaps that was just an assumption on my part.
i appreciate the help
here is what im dealin with
'02 SS A4 with the mods b4 cam(and accessories that are involved with a cam install)
-full exhaust
-stall
-SLP lid with FTRA and FRA
-gears(3.73)
after cam, i may get FAST intake and throttle body
but will def be gettin tune with new cam
probably will not be changin heads
so im just lookin fo somethin streetable but with great performance
and a good lopey idle
so i dont know what to get
the TR224 and F13 is what im gettin more opinions on
so im still unsure
im not lookin to go the BIGGEST i can on stock heads cuz more is not always better
i just want somethin that will give power,performance,quality,reliability, and of course the rough idle
i may end up gettin frustrated an just not doin it and sendin my money on some Fikse wheels but i rather have the cam sound
here is what im dealin with
'02 SS A4 with the mods b4 cam(and accessories that are involved with a cam install)
-full exhaust
-stall
-SLP lid with FTRA and FRA
-gears(3.73)
after cam, i may get FAST intake and throttle body
but will def be gettin tune with new cam
probably will not be changin heads
so im just lookin fo somethin streetable but with great performance
and a good lopey idle
so i dont know what to get
the TR224 and F13 is what im gettin more opinions on
so im still unsure
im not lookin to go the BIGGEST i can on stock heads cuz more is not always better
i just want somethin that will give power,performance,quality,reliability, and of course the rough idle
i may end up gettin frustrated an just not doin it and sendin my money on some Fikse wheels but i rather have the cam sound
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1LELS1,
What are your current mods on the car? What year?
IMO go this way
Headers>Induction mods>Stall>Cam
This will benefit and complement each mod.
FM cams are very tame streetability wise and due to their very slight lobe (cammotion) rate difference, they are able to benefit both down in the low lifts and on top.
FM 11 is one to look at too.
From what I've seen a FM cam on a 112 will idle better than a TR224 112.
What are your current mods on the car? What year?
IMO go this way
Headers>Induction mods>Stall>Cam
This will benefit and complement each mod.
FM cams are very tame streetability wise and due to their very slight lobe (cammotion) rate difference, they are able to benefit both down in the low lifts and on top.
FM 11 is one to look at too.
From what I've seen a FM cam on a 112 will idle better than a TR224 112.
Predator-Z
when it comes time for a cam
i will have the following mods
-Lid and ram air
-Full Exhaust(headers,y-pipe,catback)
-stall
-gears
since my car is an '02 i am gonna wait on the throttle body and intake manifold
when it comes time for a cam
i will have the following mods
-Lid and ram air
-Full Exhaust(headers,y-pipe,catback)
-stall
-gears
since my car is an '02 i am gonna wait on the throttle body and intake manifold
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From: BFE
Originally Posted by 1LE LS1
Predator-Z
when it comes time for a cam
i will have the following mods
-Lid and ram air
-Full Exhaust(headers,y-pipe,catback)
-stall
-gears
since my car is an '02 i am gonna wait on the throttle body and intake manifold
when it comes time for a cam
i will have the following mods
-Lid and ram air
-Full Exhaust(headers,y-pipe,catback)
-stall
-gears
since my car is an '02 i am gonna wait on the throttle body and intake manifold
But IMO no need for TB/Intake unless you get a set of heads.
Port your stock one and 02's have a LS6 intake. Both will be more than enough for up to well over 450 rwhp which you'll never make cam only in an A4.
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Originally Posted by Blue Hawk
Sorry, off topic but...
Kraest, you just make my day with that pic!
Kraest, you just make my day with that pic!
Originally Posted by Kraest
Goddamn. I guess that 10SECDWS6 was right... I mean.... look at my horrible dyno graph with my "MASSIVE" cam.
10SECDWS6 forgot to tell you that his car runs 10s... in the 1/8 mile.
10SECDWS6 forgot to tell you that his car runs 10s... in the 1/8 mile.
quote: “How about 414 rwhp with a 207/218 cam and factory manifolds and cats?” by Patrick G
as referenced in thread https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327500
quote: 426 RWHP/400 RWTQ with a puny B1 cam (221/221, 0.558"/0.558") and full exhaust!
referenced in the same thread
As a matter of fact, keep reading that thread and you will start feeling more stupid as you read.
You dumbasses with “bigger is better” attitude are pathetic. I’m starting to believe that you all are just a bunch of teenagers still living at home w/ your parents because you come across as CLUELESS.
I’ve been building small block chevy motors on and off for over 20 years. Dyno numbers don’t mean JACK ****!!!
I’m outta here guys. I hope someday you finally grow some pubs!!
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327500
quote: “How about 414 rwhp with a 207/218 cam and factory manifolds and cats?” by Patrick G
quote: “How about 414 rwhp with a 207/218 cam and factory manifolds and cats?” by Patrick G
Those are also on Z06's which if you knew anything had Ls6 heads which are far superior to ls1 heads, and have .5 higher compression ratio.
You are also finding exceptionally high dyno'ing cars.
Gomer dyno'd like 475 with the f-13 (230/232) so are you going to tell me that that cam sucks. For building engines for so long you sure don't know anything about them.
If dyno numbers don't mean anything then why are you sitting here yappin about them?
Last edited by 777; Jun 3, 2005 at 01:44 PM.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/330695-question-hydraulic-lifters.html
People who build motors for 20 years usually have a little better understanding about what they are talking about. Right? I doubt someone who has been building for so long would have to do a search on the internet on what the different types of lifters are and what they do. They could just tell you.
People who build motors for 20 years usually have a little better understanding about what they are talking about. Right? I doubt someone who has been building for so long would have to do a search on the internet on what the different types of lifters are and what they do. They could just tell you.