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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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Ok i finally switched to the bigger K&N filter. This is what is weird. It took 6 1/2 quarts to fill Its overfull if the car sits but once it runs a few seconds and you check it, its just right, maybe even a hair over. Is the normal?
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FWIW: I run 6 on the street and 7 for when I go to the road course.
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well stock it takes 5.5, so i figure the larger filter holds maybe a half more, so 6 should do it, what we do at work is, put as much oil as its supposed to take in and start the car, wait for the pressure to come up to normal or if no gauge wait about 5 seconds after the oil light goes off, turn the car off, check the stick, the stick dont lie, if after doing that the stick is at full, you should be fine
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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I run 7 for autoX and keep it in afterwards....this is with the normal sized filter...so you are okay
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LiquidFire350
well stock it takes 5.5, so i figure the larger filter holds maybe a half more, so 6 should do it, what we do at work is, put as much oil as its supposed to take in and start the car, wait for the pressure to come up to normal or if no gauge wait about 5 seconds after the oil light goes off, turn the car off, check the stick, the stick dont lie, if after doing that the stick is at full, you should be fine

Stock takes 5.5 quarts? I only put 5 quarts in mine for an oil/filter change (gc 0w30+k&n filter) and it's right on the full mark every time. Weird.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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i usually only put in 5 in mine (k&n + 5w-30 mobil 1), but we have a oil capacity book at work and the other day i just looked it up, it said 5.5 quarts, which kinda makes sence, every time i check mine with 5 in it, its in the cross-hash area but never at the full line
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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I buy 6 quarts and a regular size delco filter ever oilc hange, and I use it all.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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6 quarts on the street and 7 when going road racing. FRAM $4 stock oil filter. Redline synthetic always.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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One quart over is completely safe on the LS1, I run one quart over in my C5 all the time (I run 7.5 quarts in it)
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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Patman, doesn't the Corvette have a different oil pan? Does your overfill, then, still relate to the F body capacity? Are they different?

Wouldn't an affecting overfill manifest itself by foam on the dipstick after a run? Isn't foam from an overfill a bad thing, to be avoided like the plague?

And lastly, shouldn't oil be checked after the engine is shut off and the oil had time to drain back in the pan?

Just wondering...
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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It is true, the Corvette's oil pan is completely different than the f-body, but both of them will still handle one quart over with no problems whatsoever.

As far as checking the oil, it's best to do it when cold so the oil has had time to drain back, especially on the Vette.
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by LiquidFire350
i usually only put in 5 in mine (k&n + 5w-30 mobil 1), but we have a oil capacity book at work and the other day i just looked it up, it said 5.5 quarts, which kinda makes sence, every time i check mine with 5 in it, its in the cross-hash area but never at the full line
I do the same thing...I use 5w-30 Mobil 1 and ACDelco filter and fill it to 5 quarts and it looks full. The other day I put 5.5 quarts in and I thought I did something bad , cuz the dip stick would give me a good measurement (always got traces of oil above the max fill line. But after reading this post, people safely put 6 to 7 quarts in their cars without trouble. So I shouldn't be worried.

Here's a question? Why is there a max fill line if we can put more oil than recommended? Also, isn't it safe to run anywhere between the min and max fill line? I always thought being a little below the max fill was safe.
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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im not too sure what the down-side to over filling is, tho i have heard you can blow out seals
however in road racing, your in higher RPMs and in high speed turns, the oil moves around in the pan, over-filling reduces the likelyhood of starving your motor of oil

ive always grown up being told that anywhere in the cross-hatched area is acceptable, closer to full the better, the other day i checked it and it was a little low, i but my Mobil 1 in a box of 6 quarts so i had one extra bottle, put in half, back at the full mark
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 08:45 AM
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here's something to think about if your going to overfill.
Carcraft mag. sept 05 "blueprint any Eng. at home" . article: increase peak power through oil control . a simple test on the dyno at Westech Performance Group where chief dyno wrangler Steve Brule' pulled 1 1/2 qt's of oil out of a big block chevy (572ci) boat pan and not only improved the oil pressure at peak rpm by as much as 15 psi, but also gained an amazing 14 "free" horse power.
when oil level is to high, it creates a condition called windage where oil is whipped up by the spinning crankshaft, which not only costs horsepower but also aerates or foams the oil.
every case is different so be careful when lowering oil level. dont do it if u dont know what u r doing.
the goal here is to make the engine more efficient by improving oil pressure by reducing aeration while also potentially increasing power.

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Originally Posted by LiquidFire350
well stock it takes 5.5, so i figure the larger filter holds maybe a half more, so 6 should do it, what we do at work is, put as much oil as its supposed to take in and start the car, wait for the pressure to come up to normal or if no gauge wait about 5 seconds after the oil light goes off, turn the car off, check the stick, the stick dont lie, if after doing that the stick is at full, you should be fine

This is exactly what I do. Oil level does drop a bit once it gets spread throughout the block. I use all 6 quarts.

Does anybody have a P/N for the bigger K&N oil filter?
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 10:23 AM
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http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog...&vid=3&pcid=85
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Thanks a bunch!

I thought it would be more expensive than the Mobil 1 filter I currently use.
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Originally Posted by cowboysfan
here's something to think about if your going to overfill.
Carcraft mag. sept 05 "blueprint any Eng. at home" . article: increase peak power through oil control . a simple test on the dyno at Westech Performance Group where chief dyno wrangler Steve Brule' pulled 1 1/2 qt's of oil out of a big block chevy (572ci) boat pan and not only improved the oil pressure at peak rpm by as much as 15 psi, but also gained an amazing 14 "free" horse power.
when oil level is to high, it creates a condition called windage where oil is whipped up by the spinning crankshaft, which not only costs horsepower but also aerates or foams the oil.
every case is different so be careful when lowering oil level. dont do it if u dont know what u r doing.
the goal here is to make the engine more efficient by improving oil pressure by reducing aeration while also potentially increasing power.

"something to think about"

fuerzaws6
FYI: they also make windage trays and crank scrapers to prevent this.
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Also, a well known houston shop owner told me that when running 6quarts of oil in the f-body pan that at 6000rpm, there is less than a quart left in the pan.
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LiquidFire350
start the car, wait for the pressure to come up to normal or if no gauge wait about 5 seconds after the oil light goes off, turn the car off, check the stick, the stick dont lie, if after doing that the stick is at full, you should be fine
That is the best way to be sure. I do it to all my rides.
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