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Old 09-07-2005, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JS
Stil for 1300 they look to flow very well and it thats complete I'd say there a very good value....I wonder what I pay for them,I'm direct a few different companies including Dart

I'll be getting heads for the GTO real soon....

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Not a sponsor,wouldnt be right....Dont worry they'll be for sale on here by the sponsors around the middle of Oct...
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Originally Posted by HotRod68Camaro
i noticed the 225s dont flow as high as the AFR 225s for exhaust and intake, very close though. Darts 205 has better intake flow but its exhaust flow is lower all around compared to AFRs 205, also very close #s. If they do sell for about $1500 i think they would be worth it.
I would rather have a Dart CNC program over a AFR.... but I'm not the only one Reher Morrison uses the stock Dart CNC program on their 555cube 910hp Super Series motors. They could have used the higher flowing AFR 357cc heads on these motors but they don't....

Helps that Dart has one of the best flow benches in the country.

BTW CFE and Chapman heads usually don't flow as well as others but they make more power.

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I believe these will flow very well and very accurate
IMO a set of 1300 Darts will make buying 2000 AFRS a hard sale....
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1300 complete is IMO too cheep.
Gives dealers no mark up.
Now 1300 bare seems like a more reasonable deal for everyone.
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Originally Posted by JZ'sTA
1300 complete is IMO too cheep.
Gives dealers no mark up.
Now 1300 bare seems like a more reasonable deal for everyone.

Competition is good for the consumers.
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But puting the competion out of business is no good. At this price there is no competion. I am acturally starting to hope these heads suck because if they are as good as AFR/E-Brock who wouldn't buy the darts? I know it wont put AFR out but it could make their castings almost worthless.
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Are they alumium or Iron?
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Originally Posted by JZ'sTA
1300 complete is IMO too cheep.
Gives dealers no mark up.
Now 1300 bare seems like a more reasonable deal for everyone.
Are you crazy??!!!??? We need these prices to come down to earth....Look at the price for every other SBC head that's aluminum....around a $1000-$1500. What makes these heads cost double??? The more popular these motors get the more manufacturers will want a piece of the market share. In order to get market share you cut prices. Then if companys with existing products want to keep their market share, they have to lower their prices or offer more. Maybe we're starting to see this with the Dart heads? If these heads turn out to be good, it's only better for us!
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JZ there $640 per head assembled...
I hate to upset u buddy but I'm glad now that I didnt jump the gun and buy TEA's or those used PP heads last week

If I can get a Dart complete for 1280 I know which way I'll be going
I will be able to get them even cheaper,I'm direct with Dart
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Originally Posted by JS
JZ there $640 per head assembled...
I hate to upset u buddy but I'm glad now that I didnt jump the gun and buy TEA's or those used PP heads last week

If I can get a Dart complete for 1280 I know which way I'll be going
I will be able to get them even cheaper,I'm direct with Dart


As am I. Since my partner in crime owns a Mustang shop he has used dart for some time. I bet Jegs starts selling these soon for like 1100 complete.
You made the right move if the darts are as good as they say they are.
I wonder what parts come with them.
Probally 918's or another single spring for that price.
Any info on parts they are going to use?
Also i wonder if they are only for stock bore, or if they have a 4.125 program, a 4" program or anything besides 3.9 bore.
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Originally Posted by S1LV3R
Are you crazy??!!!??? We need these prices to come down to earth....Look at the price for every other SBC head that's aluminum....around a $1000-$1500. What makes these heads cost double??? The more popular these motors get the more manufacturers will want a piece of the market share. In order to get market share you cut prices. Then if companys with existing products want to keep their market share, they have to lower their prices or offer more. Maybe we're starting to see this with the Dart heads? If these heads turn out to be good, it's only better for us!

Acturally yes I am crazy. how did you know. Dont worry though I take good meds to keep me as normal as possible.

I understand how things work I just dont like what dart is doing.
1700 for a complete set, Fine.
That saves some money for us, makes other have to lower their prices 500 dollars or so to compete and makes everything better.
However being almost 1000 dollars cheeper then the other aftermarket castings isn't gonna do a thing. You think AFR is gonna come down 1000 dollars.
Patroit already has cheep *** prices and you still dont see TEA/MTI/Futural coming down in price.
Maybe I am crazy. Maybe I just see a different side.
Regardless price wont matter one bit if the heads dont keep up in power.
Only time will tell.
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[QUOTE=JZ'sTA] You think AFR is gonna come down 1000 dollars.
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No!! Absolutley not...I have a pair for a conventional small block right now and they are just as expensive now as they were when I bought them and there wasn't that many aftermarket casting available then. This kinda falls into "you get what you pay for"
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Originally Posted by S1LV3R
Are you crazy??!!!??? We need these prices to come down to earth....Look at the price for every other SBC head that's aluminum....around a $1000-$1500. What makes these heads cost double??? The more popular these motors get the more manufacturers will want a piece of the market share. In order to get market share you cut prices. Then if companys with existing products want to keep their market share, they have to lower their prices or offer more. Maybe we're starting to see this with the Dart heads? If these heads turn out to be good, it's only better for us!
I could not agree more. With more players in the game prices will come down.




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