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Old 08-31-2005, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by waterbug1999
Thanks, was trying to figure out why someone would want stage 2 if stage 3 was better (flow wise). I guess stage 3 is for bigger motors? What would happen if you went with a big cam and stage 3 versus stage 2 heads? HP lose?


Also what goals are you trying to achieve?
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Also what goals are you trying to achieve?
Just something I can fart around town in on the weekends and on the track, one bad ****..
The car is not a daily driver but driveability has to be some what descent to fart around town on the weekends as I stated above.
Just a routy set up I guess..
Big cam, nice heads on a "budget" build up. But what I have read, the "big" cams all have PTV clearance issues.
Looking ahead also, If i do blow the motor (97k on motor now) then of coarse I will go for a bigger cubed short block. So, trying to keep that in mind as well. Dont want to have to buy all new heads and what not because they will be too small for a 402.. Know what I mean?
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Yeah i understand. These heads are great budget heads. They will give great compression and the abilty to use a bigger cam w/o p/v clearence issues. I would go for something like a F13 or G5X2
and a set of these for a impressive budget setup.
You will still be a daily driver in my oponion with a good tune.
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I was thinkin like MS3/trex/RJ cam... But, I thought those all had issues and had to cut the pistons. Will they work with the Stage III LS6 "style" heads?
I have no clue on how to flycut the pistons, so i wanted to stay away from that.
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Probally not, and that is why i didn't suggest them. Those cams are close with stock heads and when using a aftertmarket head you have a new valve job and larger valves that will eat up clearence. I doubt it would work without flycuting.
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Originally Posted by JZ'sTA
Probally not, and that is why i didn't suggest them. Those cams are close with stock heads and when using a aftertmarket head you have a new valve job and larger valves that will eat up clearence. I doubt it would work without flycuting.
PM coming your way.
Thanks for the conversation and the Info. Will look into the suggestions you gave me.
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Gunnar is there a weight difference between the your LS6 style head and my stock LS1 head? I guess what Im asking is it the same material and if so what is weight difference?
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I am using the PP LS6 Style with REV 2.05/1.60 and a F13 cam. I love the combo. I haven't been to the dyno as I really don't care anymore about dyno numbers but have been to the track. Full weight car +2500 DA the car managed a 12.0@118mph. The first pass was a good 11 sec run but I let out. Can't go wrong here guys!
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Will Ferrea or Manley valves fit in the Stage III LS6 heads? I have everything to assemble my own heads except for the valves. I dont want to buy assembled heads and end up with two sets of springs. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Doomsday
Gunnar is there a weight difference between the your LS6 style head and my stock LS1 head? I guess what Im asking is it the same material and if so what is weight difference?
A bare 241 casting weighs 20 lbs and our bare LS6 style casting is 19 lbs.
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Originally Posted by Ferocity02
Will Ferrea or Manley valves fit in the Stage III LS6 heads? I have everything to assemble my own heads except for the valves. I dont want to buy assembled heads and end up with two sets of springs. Thanks!
Any LS valve will fit. All we need to know is the valve size so that we can do the correct valve job.
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wow, great price. this will definately put pp on the top of my list when the time comes for heads, awesome price on the cam package too. nice work guys
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Originally Posted by Gunnar@Patriot
As announced last week, August 29th is the day our price reductions on our LS6 style and LQ9 heads go into effect.

Any stage of our LS6 style or LQ9 heads are now available for only $1,195.00

Gunnar, on your site, you list the stage 2's flowed on stock bores and stage 3's on a 4.125 bore. Do you know what the 3's flow on a stock bore?
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Price went up?
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Yes its still an excellent deal!

I'm just a cheap b@stard

"But honey , its only a hundred bucks more"
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What kind of numbers will this make:

Patriot Performance GM LS6 Head,Cam & Roller Rocker Arm Kit 64cc
Comes with Patroits LS6 style heads with 2.055"/1.57" with 64cc combustion chambers. These will yield an approx. 10.6-1 compression ratio on a LS1 motor. The cam included is Patroits 226/226 .585"/.585" 112 LSA. This package is a great setup for the street. Also included are Harland Sharp 1.7 ratio shaft mounted roller rocker arms.
1550.00 for the whole setup. That saves 200 dollars off the new price.
This whole setup is brand new and ready to make some power.


JZ's TA has these the boards, j/w what it would make on a stock shortblock w/ bolt on's.

J/W.....What heads would you recommend for a stroker LS1 or an 6.0 iron block motor.....I may possibly build a motor instead of my top end. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by NW00SS
What kind of numbers will this make:

Patriot Performance GM LS6 Head,Cam & Roller Rocker Arm Kit 64cc
Comes with Patroits LS6 style heads with 2.055"/1.57" with 64cc combustion chambers. These will yield an approx. 10.6-1 compression ratio on a LS1 motor. The cam included is Patroits 226/226 .585"/.585" 112 LSA. This package is a great setup for the street. Also included are Harland Sharp 1.7 ratio shaft mounted roller rocker arms.
1550.00 for the whole setup. That saves 200 dollars off the new price.
This whole setup is brand new and ready to make some power.


JZ's TA has these the boards, j/w what it would make on a stock shortblock w/ bolt on's.

J/W.....What heads would you recommend for a stroker LS1 or an 6.0 iron block motor.....I may possibly build a motor instead of my top end. Thanks!
Depending on mods and tuning, you should be looking around 410-425 rwhp.

As far as the heads for your stroker, we need to get the specs on your parts and we can go from there.

We did have a $100.00 price increase. This is due to the fact that several of the parts used in our heads have made increases on the last 6 months. These heads are still among the best value in the market when you factor in the free gaskets and bolts. We are also using Ferrea 6000 series valves standard in all of our LS6 style heads.
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Are you guys going to be do L92 heads soon?
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We are currently working on these and will have some results in the near future. We would have results sooner, but our current work load and development of our Predator heads is keeping us busy.
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well I just recieved my heads (LS6 2.02/1.5x 59cc) and man they look awsome. fortunatly I ordered them before price increase. I still think it a bargain at that new price. at 302 cfm I cant complain.
thanks gunnar, I'm happy

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