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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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HPE 408 stroker
patriot 64 CC stage 3+ heads with additional porting done by speed inc
custom ground 240/246 608/613 on a 110+2 LSA

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will be running through stock Z06 manifolds for now though...


i will also be running a dual stage nitrous, 150 through a wet TNT and a 300 through the direct port..


im hoping to be at least 500 RWHP.. is this a decent guess??? realistic???
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these heads are used and off of a stock bottom ended camaro that put down 440 RWHP with just the heads and cam. so they flow and work very very well... (at least on a 347)
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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You should acheive over 500rwhp. Those manifolds are probably going to hurt you quite a bit, even though they are ls6's.
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how much hurt are we talking??? i cant afford 2k for a header system right now... ive heard that LS6 manifolds are pretty much shorty headers... so are we talking only like 10 Hp?
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Those heads may make a little less than normal. I kinda dropped one and knocked a couple springs loose when I picked them up from Chapman...
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Those heads may make a little less than normal. I kinda dropped one and knocked a couple springs loose when I picked them up from Chapman...

lol i surely hope your kidding hehe
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I am about dropping them not about picking them up. They look good all cleaned up. You should see close to 500 rwhp with a good tune (HP Tuners kicks ***)
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Vann has Patriot Stage III LS6 heads on his FFHP 408 and it only put down 437rwhp through an A4 with a 3500 stall and the stock rear end.. He's got longtube headers and a cutout as well.. Thats pretty damn shitty in my opinion...
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I am about dropping them not about picking them up. They look good all cleaned up. You should see close to 500 rwhp with a good tune (HP Tuners kicks ***)
LOL jeremy told me he picked em up...

so i hear your car is running like a raped ape??? we will all have to go do some cruising next season. haha that would be sick to have me, you, jeremy, ron, and chad all cruising around with wicked HP cars... can you imagine chilling on state street with that ****??


honestly how good are you guys at tuning with HPtuners??? im most likely going to end up driving to nevada and getting a dyno tune. but id like to have a baseline before i drive that far.
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Yeah my car is running pretty damn good right now on Speed Density. I need to get to the dyno after I get my underdrive pulley on. I'm ok with HP Tuners but my buddy Cleetus (w/ the H/C/I blue SS like Jeremys) is amazing with it. If you have any computer background at all you take to it like a fish to water. It's a far better investment to buy the software instead of a one time tune in case you ever change your setup at all.
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how much hurt are we talking??? i cant afford 2k for a header system right now... ive heard that LS6 manifolds are pretty much shorty headers... so are we talking only like 10 Hp?
If you can't afford it don't worry about it. I'd say it's more than 10rwhp because of the bigger cubes. I'd lean closer to 20rwhp. I'd deal with it if I didn't have money. You are going to putting down some serious numbers anyhow.
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Yeah my car is running pretty damn good right now on Speed Density. I need to get to the dyno after I get my underdrive pulley on. I'm ok with HP Tuners but my buddy Cleetus (w/ the H/C/I blue SS like Jeremys) is amazing with it. If you have any computer background at all you take to it like a fish to water. It's a far better investment to buy the software instead of a one time tune in case you ever change your setup at all.
wait... your running on speed density??? who did that tuning for ya??? and yeah i talked to jeremy and he said cleetus was pretty good too.. i am considering buying the software but last time i tried to tune my LT1 it was pretty pathetic.. i didnt have a laptop to sit there and drive around 24/7.


and 777... maybe i will just buck up and spring for some long tubes.. im not interested in giving up 20 RWHP... thats a definite waste! .. how about porting the stock manifolds??? i probly wont get much more out of them id imagine..
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Cleetus and I tuned it. We're both running in SD it's way easier to tune. Your car switches to it anyway above 4,000 RPM. I'll be removing my MAF completely soon since it's just a restriction in the airway. I'm not sure about the LT1 program but the version we have is awesome.
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hrmm... so can you guys tune other peoples cars?? or is it VIN locked?? how many vins can it use?? if i buy software would you guys wanna help out?? i really have no idea where to start with an LS1...

also.. doesnt chad and them build custom headers??? how much would they charge to build me some for my car?? im guessing customs are probably almost cheaper than buying some outright... they want almost 2k for my long tubes
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Dude that's wrong...$1495 for LG long tubes and the X-pipe.

http://www.ls1speed.com/catagory.cfm?catagory=Exhaust

I'd just hook that up to the ti exhaust.
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wow.. i got quoted alot higher than that...


ok so what kind of head gaskets should i get??? there are freaking tons of different ones.... i know i need about .040 for quench... but what do i want??/ copper??? MLS??? cometic??? what would be the best for my setup???
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