If I threw on some affordable heads...
If I threw on some affordable heads... The setup so far called for a TR230...now...
I have a 2001 LS1 and it would be set up accordingly:
Lid
LS6 Intake
TR230 Cam
Pacesetter LT's w/TSP Rumbler X
If I threw on some affordable heads, say a Patriot LS6 style head (which btw the Stage II and III are the same price so wouldn't you just get the III?) how much more power would it give over just the cam only setup?
This is in an A4 car. Thanks.
I have a 2001 LS1 and it would be set up accordingly:
Lid
LS6 Intake
TR230 Cam
Pacesetter LT's w/TSP Rumbler X
If I threw on some affordable heads, say a Patriot LS6 style head (which btw the Stage II and III are the same price so wouldn't you just get the III?) how much more power would it give over just the cam only setup?
This is in an A4 car. Thanks.
Last edited by BlackHawk T/A; Dec 22, 2005 at 01:00 AM.
Cool that's kinda what I figured...now what if I chose the 59cc head?
How much would the compression ratio be raised from a 5cc difference and how much power would you get out of it?
They have a 64cc and 59cc version on their site.
How much would the compression ratio be raised from a 5cc difference and how much power would you get out of it?
They have a 64cc and 59cc version on their site.
Originally Posted by treyZ28
livernois has a ported LS6 head for under a grand. That is what you need 
YEah, cast CNC'ed 243's are tough to beat when they almost cost that much straight from GM as Cast!!!
We can do a set of CNC ported 243 castings bare for $845.00 a pair. We can also do these with Ferrea 2.02"/1.57" valves for $1,075.00 (w/o springs, using stock guides), or we can do these with Ferrea 2.02"/1.57" valves, Patriot Gold dual springs, ti retainers, Super 7 locks, bronze guides, viton seals, and machined spring bases for $1,395.00. Don't forget about our LS6 style heads which are currently $1,195.00 assembled per pair. We have several options that we can give you.
Last edited by Gunnar@Patriot; Dec 19, 2005 at 09:28 AM.
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Wow you can really gain that much by going to 11:1?
How about avoiding pinging on pump gas? We have 91 here.
Is it going to be on the edge or is it all in the tune?
How about avoiding pinging on pump gas? We have 91 here.
Is it going to be on the edge or is it all in the tune?
Originally Posted by BlackHawk T/A
Wow you can really gain that much by going to 11:1?
How about avoiding pinging on pump gas? We have 91 here.
Is it going to be on the edge or is it all in the tune?
How about avoiding pinging on pump gas? We have 91 here.
Is it going to be on the edge or is it all in the tune?
On a side note, Gunnar's suggestion for the lower compression is, as I've found out, for the longevity of the motor. The high compression heads will run somewhat better, but at the added expense of going back into your motor for a rebuild in another 30-40k miles, it isn't worth it just to make a good street setup. 10.5 is good, anything over 11 to 1 is going to start causing problems way down the road.
I am going through the same thing you are, so join the head-hunter club.
I am going through the same thing you are, so join the head-hunter club.
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Originally Posted by BlackZCamaro
On a side note, Gunnar's suggestion for the lower compression is, as I've found out, for the longevity of the motor. The high compression heads will run somewhat better, but at the added expense of going back into your motor for a rebuild in another 30-40k miles, it isn't worth it just to make a good street setup. 10.5 is good, anything over 11 to 1 is going to start causing problems way down the road.
I am going through the same thing you are, so join the head-hunter club.
I am going through the same thing you are, so join the head-hunter club.
They typically are. Creating more cylinder pressure than a short block was designed for will eventually cause excessive wear, while not at the same rate as a FI car, but still, it will eventually begin to take its toll on the motor. The RPMS required to flow a set of heads can accelerate that wear too. The shops and companies we have all talked to warned us that the higher compression heads -WILL- put more stress on the rings, and quite possibly the bearings, and the motor will need to be re-ringed/bearinged at some point.