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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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Hi there,

My 98 Z28 (A4) is currently sat in a garage with its engine opened up requiring a new cam and lifters so I thought I would take this opportunity to get a new cam, lifters, rockers, springs and timing chain.

I am either going to get the LS1 Hotcam or a 224/224 ThunderRacing cam. The only thing I am concerned about is that I may not be able to get a tune for my car so easily as I am in England. Would my car be driveable with the 224/224 and no tune or am I just better off getting the Hotcam and having done with it? (I was advised that I can definitely get away with no tune for it)

I don't want to have to worry about uprating the cam again in the near future so want to go for a good one while the engine is open.

Anyone able to help me?
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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What lsa is the TR224???
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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224/224 is a pretty easy cam to tune, you should be able to get away with no tuning for awhile.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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If it is on a 114 lsa. It should idle pretty well.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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I've got the TR224 112 LSA on my GTO and it runs ok without a tune. Stalls occasionally at a stop and SEL light (Po300, random misfire) but it is drivable for the most part. Waiting till the snow melts for the tune.

There's a video of it here somwhere....https://ls1tech.com/forums/pontiac-gto-2004-2006/431264-tr224-112-lsa-installed-vid.html
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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I'll venture to say with the Hotcam's valve events you'll have far more problems with it than a 224 114LSA. I've heard untuned 6 speeds Hotcams sit and hunt for idle for 30 secs untuned. My TR224 112 untuned would hunt for 5-10 secs at most. If you can't find a tuner I would look into a mail order tune form one of the US vendors here. It might not be as good as a full on dyno tune but lots better than none at all. TSP does MOT so you might want to check with them.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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If it is on a 114 lsa. It should idle pretty well.

Like Phil said the TR224 will be fine right out of the box especially on a 114lsa
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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Oh God, I cannot wait, I just saw your vid clip and the 112 sounds lovely! I will put my order in any day now and get myself:

LS2 Timing Chain Set (ThunderRacing)
224/224 114 Cam (TR)
Crane Dual Valve Springs (Texas Speed)
Comp Cams "Comp R" Hydraulic Roller Lifters (TS)
Crane Cams Rocker Arm (TS)

I think my car would pick up some serious power after that little lot

I will try and get some vids up of it when its done! I may be able to find a guy over here who does American V8 tunes, just as long as the car get me to his!!! What sort of power increase you guys getting with your cams?
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