orangeapeel

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Where can you find that book? I was planning on snagging a copy anyways.

02WS6Bird

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There are guys that drive w/ 4K stalls all the time... It'sfun and interesting but i wouldnt recommend it for frequent driving by any means. I would say the 3800 would be the choice. I myself wouldn't go over 3600 for street use personally.

As for the cam. Your custom Idea doesn't sound too bad, but there are so many other factors in it then just the size. Go to Outlaw Motorsports, Ordered Mine through there Shoot me a PM and i'll get you some info. Now, For instance the TR224 vs your idea of the 225. Factor in Ramp rates, timing, and a whole bunch of other things. No guarantees that just because the cam is larger, that it will make better power. Not by any means. There are several proven cams out there, and way more than people would like to choose from.
On smaller cams such as the TR224 or any of the Stealth series cams reach mid-lower 11's head/cam at full race weight-like a daily driver race weight-if I'm not mistaken. On larger cam's like the F14 people are running low 11's w/ minimal weight reduction and driving it on the street w/o any problems. Makes excellent power and easy to drive on. Of course two EXTREMELY popular cams I would look into if I were you

Futral F13
and
TSP Torquer V.2

These are two cams that have been proven to make excellent power and remain VERY streetable. Take a look at them, do some reserch on them- TSP will tend to sound a bit more agressive but its not much of a difference, all in the design of the cam.

DannoWS6

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If your goal is 11.5 bolt on / cam car, your gonna need to concentrate on hooking.

If you want to run a 11.5 you better plan on cutting good 1.6 60fts.

I can breach high 11's on low 1.7's with my current setup, This is full weight.

My recommendation is to get a 3800 stall (I might be swapping to a yank myself).

Get some good tires. Nittos are a good compromise for street/track. BFG's are better at the track, but don't last as long.

Consider a good torque arm too.

Loose some weight, back seats, spare, mats,etc...

the 225/225 cam is a good pick (I have a 228/228 112 comp cam, but with a little less lift than the 225 you mentioned). Along with ALL the boltons and a good tune it will get you about where you want to be. My preference on the LSA is 112, you will feel it more lower and it will sound a bit nastier.

Stalled auto's are a whole different story on the dyno. HP #'s are not the deciding factor for stalled A4's.

If you cut 2.0" on the line even with the cam, stall, etc your gonna be stuck running 12.5's, Make sure she's hooks when you start building her up.

DannoWS6

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Oh and like mentioned before, Don't get a monster cam just to make 10 more hp. You'll loose a lot of drivability and low end.

My cam is considered mild by today's standard, through an M6 I would probably hit 400rwhp. It is super drivable and works for me. If I went bigger yeah I would of made more power, but after 5700 rpms, and I would of lost power under the curve as well as drivability. For what 10-15 more peak hp.

JL ws-6

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Biggest mistake people make is to stick teh biggest cam in they can run clearance wise... then wonder why their 3700 lb car with driver is only running mid 12's.. but htey dynoed 420 hp.. or more. Total power, thru the entire rpm range the car sees will work better, esp. on a heavier car, they take alot more effort to get moving.

The small cam I have in my car now will work great for me this year, surely enough to get me booted for having no cage, esp. once the TH400 is in and I have the shifting and shift points set right... but once the car gets the cage and loses teh weight, I already know I'll have to go to somethign bigger, and most likly flycut my pistons for clearance.

Call a sponsor... they can elaborate with you probably farther then you can understand if you and they have the time. Bottom line, define your goal, car specs and weight when you see yourself done, and plan for that.. you will be a much happier person if you do.

vettenuts

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I got it off of Amazon. He also has a cylinder head book that is excellent. If you get both, shipping will be free so the second book is even cheaper

Nasty N8

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Personally I would not go higher than a 2800 for the street you are going to get nothing but wheel spin either way. It drives nice and tight until you stab it and light them up. Anything bigger feels like the trans is constantly slipping. That is a great grind of cam runs good and make great power.

Nate

z28C4maro82z

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Well the 225/225 cam sounds nasty as hell as it sits in the car.

It's shown here in a buddy of mine car

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....&term=idle&p=0

Anyways tuned he put down around 410. I know through an auto I will lose power. But is 380 a decent number full bolt on.

As for soley sticking to a 2800 cam, I've driven a vig 3600 car, and didn't mind it all. Seems very fun to drive. So I'm just trying to decide if I should up it to a 3800 or 4000 or just go with the vig.

My choices have always been between the f14 or f13.....Only other decision now is if I will like generally the same power as those cams with something slightly smaller.

rmata

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I have MTI's Stealth II cam for sale for $300. 224/220 .581/.581 on a 116. It's very streetable and will get you where you want to be

z28C4maro82z

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Bringing this back up, trying to keep it running and see what people think. I'm still torn between the f13, f14, and the 225/225 custom cam i mentioned with a 595 595 lift on a 112 or 114.

Would there be any problems on a 112 rather than a 114. Such as idle problems or anything like that

FUN LS1

If you swap those 2.73's for 3.73's or 4.10's anything will be streetable, especially your original choice, the F14. An F13 might be even better for you, though. In either case the Cammotion lobes will be more forgiving on your valvetrain for longer life and lots of street miles. Beware though, after driving around with 4.10's for a while, you'll want to get a big-*** cam to slap in there. Low-end torque issues will be gone. With an auto I'd stick with less overlap or the 114 SLAs. You'll need a really good tune with 112 LSA and A4.

[EDIT] you can move the power band down some by grinding in a couple degrees of advance, too. (114+2)

z28C4maro82z

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Yes, the gearing will be at 373's without a doubt. Haven't thought of going 410's but hear it isn't pretty on your rear. The 373's will do fine. I still am not ruling out the f14 as I think it would make me the happiest. Will give me the track times I want, the idle sound, and the dyno times and still be very streetable. I think it will be my choice, but just want to hear some other opinions on it. I think it's a great choice. And if there are any other recommendations shoot them at me

z28C4maro82z

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The f13 I have heard has a lot less of a mean idle than the f14. The f14 idle is so sexy

z28C4maro82z

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BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks again everyone

DocEwww

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Paint your car...80 hp

z28C4maro82z

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So yeh, honday ghost flames lol

cyphur

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F13 will make more power down low and drive a bit better than the F14, and is not as rough on the valvetrain.

It will also make damn near the same power as the F14.

Rescue Ranger

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I'm talking to east side about the same cam JL ws-6 was talking about, 224/228 grind, I want the 112lsa for the lope, along w/ texas speed prc ls6 heads. not a bad combo I dont think.. now as long as i dont strip a spark plug hole on these heads :dammit:

JL ws-6

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Can't go wrong. I have that cam, with a good set of ls6 heads on my car... if you ever wanna go for a ride to see what it will be like before you make the purchase, lemme know, be happy to. Of course, now teh car is snowed in for probably a month and won't be going anywhere and I will be doing a th400 swap this spring, so you'll have to hit me up early before that, if you want to see what it's like with the 6 speed.

z28C4maro82z

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Bump still looking for f14 comments and opinions

Still looking to answer if it would be best fitting for a 3800 stall, and 373's

Daily Driver but I've driven a 3600 lately and I loved it so I don't think it would be a problem driving her everyday