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Old 02-06-2006, 04:19 PM
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Yeah, it's about $400 around Virginia at a good shop...
Old 02-06-2006, 08:22 PM
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well you could do what i did. I got a mail order tune from TSP to get me by till summer when i can get a dead on dyno tune.

They had a nice special going with there mail order tunes i don't know if its still going on or not though.
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My guy here near Charlotte,NC is one of the best and he's one thepeople that builds the 90mm TB for alot of the sponsers. PM me if you want his #. He will be doing a head swap for me very soon.
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Nick Williams can do a excellent tune for you. He builds 90mm TB's for alot of the sponsers on here and is well known around the NC area as well as other states. We live near Charlotte so if your interested in a tune just PM me and I'll get you his #
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You'll need a tune. I dropped a TR224 112 in my car and although it runs, it does stall at lights sometimes and runs rich (which will kill the 02's and the cats quickly).

Bottom line you need a tune to fully take advantage of your mods. Without it you're leaving HP on the table and CAN do damage to your car.

Car is in storage right now due to winter but a tune is set for March.
Old 02-07-2006, 09:41 AM
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i still havent got a tune yet but i will be shortly here once i get the car back out and it runs OK but it definitely needs to be tuned
Old 02-07-2006, 01:52 PM
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yeah it was around $400 from the guy in NC I talked to about a year ago, gotta see about taxes since the wife only approved the $300 for the cam install
Old 02-07-2006, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by john shea
I got a tune here in missouri for $200 dollars
fron a very respected tuner.
Did you get a tune from a shop or just with some one with HP Tuner or LS1 Edit?

If from shop, care to share which shop it is? I'd like to get a tune sometime next month.
Old 02-07-2006, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by john shea
I got a tune here in missouri for $200 dollars
fron a very respected tuner. I haven't raced it yet but
but there is a tremendous feeeling of more power.

who did your tune?
Old 02-10-2006, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by navymitch12
how much was the dude up in NC quoteing you, i am getting long tubes, tsp true dual and comp xer 224/224 .581 114 so i will prob need a tune. i was told to look at around 400$ for a good tune up in NC.
i contacted him and he said he would do ours for $350 if we came in together might even be able to get it down if we got more to go in with us but i still need to get the money off to the side since i gotta pay to have the cam and a few other things put on
Old 02-10-2006, 08:24 PM
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Go with the mail order tune. Most shops give you "like" a mail order tune anyway, and a dyno pull just to show how much HP your making.

If they dont give you several dyno readings, then they gave you the average tune that will make your car run really good. A true dyno tune , you will be on the dyno for several hours adding this and subtracting that to make your car perfect.

if you go to a shop and they give you one dyno pull reading, you probly got something close to a mail order tune unless your standing there at the dyno machine with them

Most of the shops have installed a ton of combos and keep a good book of tunes. They install your parts and cross reference your tune, then upload it. Your car will perform really nice. Half the proof will be how your car performs under 1700 RPMS and above 5000 RPMS.
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OK when you guys refer to tuning, Can those pocket programmers correct a good enough tune for a cam swap and such? Or is it really needed to spend the 400-600 for a dyno and tune. I was jw cause I never really got the hypertech tunners etc if every gets their car tuned somewhere else.
Old 02-11-2006, 08:06 AM
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No the pocket tunes will not help you with heads and/or cam package.
Old 02-12-2006, 09:15 AM
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Then really what's their purpose / advantage of buying one??
Old 02-12-2006, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by crazy3rdgen
Then really what's their purpose / advantage of buying one??
I gained about 30 HP with my Predator tune over stock, with the bolt-ons in my sig. Plus I can make all the adjustments I need now, like when I installed 4.10 gears. You can modify PE, and record performance, but you then have to send numbers to DiabloSport to get an adjusted tuned sent to you. With a proper tuning set up: Dyno + LS1 Edit, you can see all the F/A, make changes between Closed Loop/Open Loop, and a lot more in fairly real time. So you can really nail the tune.

Bottom line is that for a proper tune, you need more than a hand-held tuner, unless you have some sort of special gift... BUT, from my experience, it is well worth getting a DiabloSport Predator (I got mine from SLP) if you have a stock set up and want to tweak a lot more power out of it. Just look at the dyno results below.
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Old 03-18-2006, 05:36 PM
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navymitch I am planning on going up there soon within the next 2 months because I am hearing too many "you better get it done right after your install" from people
Old 03-18-2006, 06:22 PM
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well i got the cam in... did it last weekend and have had no problems so far. i plan on getting a tune but dont have the money for it as of yet so it will wait
Old 03-18-2006, 06:24 PM
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Dont get a mail order tune,waste of money.And you will be fine if you drive a few weeks,thats a tiny cam and it should idle if you raise the idle with the screw on the TB.
Old 03-18-2006, 06:25 PM
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Dont even waste your time putting a cam in if you dont plan on getting it tuned for it.
Old 03-18-2006, 07:01 PM
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i do plan on getting a tune for it and i didnt waste my money i got the cam for basically free. i just dont have the money to get a tune yet.



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