newbie wanting cam
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ok, thanks for all the answers, you talked me into a tune, it will just have to come a few months after i get everything installed
i wont have the money to do it all at the same time
SQR is the go to place though?
i wont have the money to do it all at the same time
SQR is the go to place though?
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it doesnt matter now, i did the math, when i do it all i can afford the tune as well
im looking at a little smaller now, like the f13/14s look like they might make driving my car daily more enjoyable, more lower range power
how do they sound at idle compared to the ms3 or t rex
ive heard videos that make them sound better at idle than the trex, like meaner, but its hard to tell on video
im looking at a little smaller now, like the f13/14s look like they might make driving my car daily more enjoyable, more lower range power
how do they sound at idle compared to the ms3 or t rex
ive heard videos that make them sound better at idle than the trex, like meaner, but its hard to tell on video
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jwhert, where do you spend most of your time, Abilene or Arlington? I don't believe I have seen your car around here in Abilene. My wife and I are the people with the 2 red Formula's. 
When you are in town just get in contact with us and we would be more than happy to just talk cars. I don't know a lot, but maybe I can help out in some areas.
When you are in town just get in contact with us and we would be more than happy to just talk cars. I don't know a lot, but maybe I can help out in some areas.
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i just found out my warranty isnt expiring around the time i thought it was, its an extended warranty and still has 1year+ on it
so it looks like i will be doing full exhaust for now unless someone tells me a cam wont void the warranty, i dont know how it wouldnt
but the good news is the exhaust will be on when its time for a cam
so it looks like i will be doing full exhaust for now unless someone tells me a cam wont void the warranty, i dont know how it wouldnt
but the good news is the exhaust will be on when its time for a cam
well, your warranty isn't really going to help as most times a dealership is going to be 
and say "oh, you've modified your car, we won't fix it now" even if you broke your transmission and all you have is a mild exhaust and an airlid. most dealerships are gay like that.
you can run a stealth cam and pick up some decent power, and most dealerships(or people) won't even notice its in there. or talk to Patrick G about the cheater cam, its pretty good as well.
i just had a new motor insalled, a TSP 347, and I have an F13 in there, and it lopes decently, nothing like a TRex, but its comparable to an F14. It pulls like a biotch from 2500 on up to whenever I feel like letting off the gas.
I only have a partial MAF tune on it right now, so it still surges a little, and bucks in parking lots if my RPM's drop too low. Under 1500 or so and she gets a little finicky. She goes in for a full Speed Density tune @ SQR on thursday(thats who installed my motor and a ton of other **** on my car while it was up there). SQR has a couple people up there who can tune with the best of them(from everything I've heard about other tuners, they pretty much ARE the best in DFW imo). They won't let you leave the shop unless the tune is spot-on.
and say "oh, you've modified your car, we won't fix it now" even if you broke your transmission and all you have is a mild exhaust and an airlid. most dealerships are gay like that. you can run a stealth cam and pick up some decent power, and most dealerships(or people) won't even notice its in there. or talk to Patrick G about the cheater cam, its pretty good as well.
i just had a new motor insalled, a TSP 347, and I have an F13 in there, and it lopes decently, nothing like a TRex, but its comparable to an F14. It pulls like a biotch from 2500 on up to whenever I feel like letting off the gas.
I only have a partial MAF tune on it right now, so it still surges a little, and bucks in parking lots if my RPM's drop too low. Under 1500 or so and she gets a little finicky. She goes in for a full Speed Density tune @ SQR on thursday(thats who installed my motor and a ton of other **** on my car while it was up there). SQR has a couple people up there who can tune with the best of them(from everything I've heard about other tuners, they pretty much ARE the best in DFW imo). They won't let you leave the shop unless the tune is spot-on.
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assuming i knew how to do it, how much would be involved in swapping back to the stock cam before taking it in for warranty work
what kind of time am i looking at, i am almost positive my dad has everything we would need to do it
so if we learned how to that might be what i try to do
what kind of time am i looking at, i am almost positive my dad has everything we would need to do it
so if we learned how to that might be what i try to do
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Originally Posted by jwhert
assuming i knew how to do it, how much would be involved in swapping back to the stock cam before taking it in for warranty work
what kind of time am i looking at, i am almost positive my dad has everything we would need to do it
so if we learned how to that might be what i try to do
what kind of time am i looking at, i am almost positive my dad has everything we would need to do it
so if we learned how to that might be what i try to do
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From: Abilene, TX
Originally Posted by jwhert
it doesnt matter now, i did the math, when i do it all i can afford the tune as well
im looking at a little smaller now, like the f13/14s look like they might make driving my car daily more enjoyable, more lower range power
how do they sound at idle compared to the ms3 or t rex
ive heard videos that make them sound better at idle than the trex, like meaner, but its hard to tell on video
im looking at a little smaller now, like the f13/14s look like they might make driving my car daily more enjoyable, more lower range power
how do they sound at idle compared to the ms3 or t rex
ive heard videos that make them sound better at idle than the trex, like meaner, but its hard to tell on video
IMO power/torque is what you should base your cam on. You can drop your idle speed to 750 and with any aftermarket cam still have some idle inconsistencies (lope). Also, the swap back to the stock cam would be a pain. You would be better off having the ability to have open exhaust with 3 wingnuts or the flip of a switch. That way you could drive it loud or quiet, and when you go in for warranty work they wont even know you are cammed. I took mine back to Carmax because my window motor was overheating and basically needed to be replaced (3rd freaking time) and they didnt say anything to me. The first and second time i did it myself and knocked the spring off...That was an ***-beating i was not willing to take again...The dude even killed it 2 times in the customer service lanes and thought that my clutch was going out. That was with a stage 3 spec and built T-56. They fixed it free of charge then realized that I didnt have an extended warranty! They can or cannot be voided due to the compentency of the dealership.
So to sum it up. F13-F14 + Good tune + full exhaust that can be quiet when closed. You should see some great power, hear some good lope, and be able to get your car sserviced still. Unless they are asshats and pull the any mod other than air filter and your warranty is voided.
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I've had a couple differant Camaros that were still under warrenty. My first one was a 95 that had an extended warrenty. The rule was, if you make a modification and that modification causes the malfunction, it is not covered. If something unrelated to the modification breaks or malfunctions, it is covered. Those rule come from both GM and the place I had the extended warrenty through.
Example: If you put in a cam and blow your motor it, won't be covered. But if your ball joint goes bad it is covered.
I hope this helps.
Good luck,
Al
Example: If you put in a cam and blow your motor it, won't be covered. But if your ball joint goes bad it is covered.
I hope this helps.
Good luck,
Al