A few cam questions... Magic Stick Owners as well... Advice please!!
03-08-2006, 01:40 AM
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A few cam questions... Magic Stick Owners as well... Advice please!! Firts let me say, my car is NOT a daily driver!!
I have the following mods...
160 tstat (doubt it matters)
ORY
Mac Mid-Lengths
SLP loud mouth
SLP lid
Drilled TB butterfly
Ported MAF
I'm installing a SPEC Stage 2 this weekend (got it for super-cheap from a friend who decided to go turbo and get a SPEC Stage 5) and I plan on getting 4.10s...
I plan on getting a TSP Magic Stick and a 150 wet shot... and from what I've seen, this cam responds well to nitrous with a good tune. I plan on having it tuned at PCMforless with LS1Edit. So with that said, I have a few questions...
1 - Am I correct in thinking the magic stick will work well with the nitrous?
2 - What will I need to replace in the valvetrain when I do the cam? (include gaskets and all please)
3 - What type of power should I see (just on average) on and off the bottle with the mods I have already?
4 - Will 4.10s be too much? (Keep in mind this car will be driven only a few times a week on the street and at the track often... I have another vehicle for daily duty)
5 - Estimate of track times? (this question is pretty optional)
6 - What else should I consider upgrading?
Thanks in advance
I have the following mods...
160 tstat (doubt it matters)
ORY
Mac Mid-Lengths
SLP loud mouth
SLP lid
Drilled TB butterfly
Ported MAF
I'm installing a SPEC Stage 2 this weekend (got it for super-cheap from a friend who decided to go turbo and get a SPEC Stage 5) and I plan on getting 4.10s...
I plan on getting a TSP Magic Stick and a 150 wet shot... and from what I've seen, this cam responds well to nitrous with a good tune. I plan on having it tuned at PCMforless with LS1Edit. So with that said, I have a few questions...
1 - Am I correct in thinking the magic stick will work well with the nitrous?
2 - What will I need to replace in the valvetrain when I do the cam? (include gaskets and all please)
3 - What type of power should I see (just on average) on and off the bottle with the mods I have already?
4 - Will 4.10s be too much? (Keep in mind this car will be driven only a few times a week on the street and at the track often... I have another vehicle for daily duty)
5 - Estimate of track times? (this question is pretty optional)
6 - What else should I consider upgrading?
Thanks in advance
03-08-2006, 03:12 AM
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1. Yes, very well.
2. Pushrods, Springs, Retainers, Maybe Lifters, Oil Pump, Would be optimal time for a UD pulley as well, Timing chain, and some RTV seal in a tube for the timing cover.
3.Power, I would consider some longtubes if it can be worked into your budget. the power with cam only and a few boltons should be right at or around 400 +/- 5 either way. On the hose with a 150, you could see upwards of 540-560 and tq around 600ish.
4. 4.10s would probably be optimal because a cam of that size will steal from your low end power. So you are correct in this assumption. I do however feel sorry for your rear end.
5. Depends on your driving. M6 maybe in the low 12's possibly be able to click off an 11 N/A. On the hose you may or may not be low 11's high 10's.
6. I put it in all under #2.
Hope this helps some. you might want to see what other people chime in with that have more experience with the MS3. I do however have a cousin grind of it so I have an idea of how it is going to act in your setup.
2. Pushrods, Springs, Retainers, Maybe Lifters, Oil Pump, Would be optimal time for a UD pulley as well, Timing chain, and some RTV seal in a tube for the timing cover.
3.Power, I would consider some longtubes if it can be worked into your budget. the power with cam only and a few boltons should be right at or around 400 +/- 5 either way. On the hose with a 150, you could see upwards of 540-560 and tq around 600ish.
4. 4.10s would probably be optimal because a cam of that size will steal from your low end power. So you are correct in this assumption. I do however feel sorry for your rear end.
5. Depends on your driving. M6 maybe in the low 12's possibly be able to click off an 11 N/A. On the hose you may or may not be low 11's high 10's.
6. I put it in all under #2.
Hope this helps some. you might want to see what other people chime in with that have more experience with the MS3. I do however have a cousin grind of it so I have an idea of how it is going to act in your setup.
03-08-2006, 02:15 PM
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I'll likely be running a set of BFG DRs... I have a set of M/T ET streets, but theyre nearly done and I won't goto the track often enough this coming season to justify new ones. So if I can keep the rear intact this season with the DRs... I'll budget a 12 bolt for an over-the-winter thing and then get a new set of slicks.
But basically ... watch out at the track cuz my 10 bolt might eat itself huh?
But basically ... watch out at the track cuz my 10 bolt might eat itself huh?
