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Cam choice I have an 2004 GTO and am thinking about installing a cam. I havent decided exactly what i want yet but I know i dont want anytihng too radical. The 2 choices I am thinking about is the LPE GT2/3 which is 207/220/.571 .578/118.5 or my dads current cam in his 2002 Z28. Its a Comp XE-R 226/.584/114 I know these 2 cams are totally different but what do you guys suggest. I currently have just a LPE CAI and a SLP catback along with the TB coolant bypass. With the cam install I'll be putting on a SLP underdrive pulley(that i already have) and most likely getting ittuned. I possibly will be getting long tube headers but not in the immediate future. I'm basically trying to get an additional 50 rwhp with a cam/tune/pulley without it being too rough and still maintai ALL driveability. What kind of springs/pushrods/retainers should I use for the Comp cam? Will 918's work? I dont wanna add dual springs unless I have to.
Thanks in advance for the suggestions. I also dont plan on installing different rear end gears either...
Thanks in advance for the suggestions. I also dont plan on installing different rear end gears either...
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Thanks Predator. I just went to Thunders site and checked out that cam. Seems pretty different. Will it still work well with additional bolt ons if i go that route later on(headers, etc)? How much power should I expect with just that cam and a tune on my car? How is the idle and driveability on that cam
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Originally Posted by 95z6spd
Thanks Predator. I just went to Thunders site and checked out that cam. Seems pretty different. Will it still work well with additional bolt ons if i go that route later on(headers, etc)? How much power should I expect with just that cam and a tune on my car? How is the idle and driveability on that cam
I found this on Thunders site http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog...ories&pcid=289 This is a heads and cam package on with standad exhaust system. Spending that sort of money on heads and cam I'm a little dissapointed to see 394 rwhp, it dont seem that good, but perhaps it is...
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Originally Posted by RedWS6 00
I found this on Thunders site http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog...ories&pcid=289 This is a heads and cam package on with standad exhaust system. Spending that sort of money on heads and cam I'm a little dissapointed to see 394 rwhp, it dont seem that good, but perhaps it is...
Thanks for the link. I think its pretty impressive considering the completly stock exhaust. See my thing is that I MIGHT wanna add headers later on...and if so they will probably be Kooks long tubes with cats. BUT I dont wanan spend the money on them right now. I can probably get the 226/.584/114 cam from my dad for next to nothing....all i'd have to do is get the springs and pushrods...and the LPE GT2-3 cam is 399 with springs so both ways are relatively cheap comapred to $1250 for headers plus installation. I'd just like to have about 50 more rwhp for the cheapest amount of money....without nitrous. But at the same time i dont wanna shoot my self in the foot with a cam that will ONLY work on this combination or that combination. I thought the GT2-3 cam or the 226/.584 cam would be more compatible with different combunations if I wanted to upgrade later...
The 226 cam is going to choke on the stock exhaust. You need a decent split and probably less overlap. If you want something bigger than the LPE, get the cheater or something like a 220/228 115 112 on XE-R lobes.
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Thanks for the link. I think its pretty impressive considering the completly stock exhaust. See my thing is that I MIGHT wanna add headers later on...and if so they will probably be Kooks long tubes with cats. BUT I dont wanan spend the money on them right now. I can probably get the 226/.584/114 cam from my dad for next to nothing....all i'd have to do is get the springs and pushrods...and the LPE GT2-3 cam is 399 with springs so both ways are relatively cheap comapred to $1250 for headers plus installation. I'd just like to have about 50 more rwhp for the cheapest amount of money....without nitrous. But at the same time i dont wanna shoot my self in the foot with a cam that will ONLY work on this combination or that combination. I thought the GT2-3 cam or the 226/.584 cam would be more compatible with different combunations if I wanted to upgrade later...
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The cheaTR cam is probably the most versatile. It works great with stock manifolds, and also well with longtubes. The 226 will suck on stock manifolds. It won't work well at all without longtubes.
Hows the CheaTR cam sound? And how much horsepower should I expect with just that cam/ a pulley/ and a tune
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The CheaTR is a Stealth cam, not much lope.
You can expect in the 390 range. Not all car are equal you could even make more.
And yes it will gain HP with headers, an even more with proper heads.
Patrick G made in excess of 430rwhp with H/C and bolt ons.
That is very respectable from a cam that size, will pass a a sleeper and will pass emissions, it will drive like a champ, no bucking, surging, searching for idle etc...
You can expect in the 390 range. Not all car are equal you could even make more.
And yes it will gain HP with headers, an even more with proper heads.
Patrick G made in excess of 430rwhp with H/C and bolt ons.
That is very respectable from a cam that size, will pass a a sleeper and will pass emissions, it will drive like a champ, no bucking, surging, searching for idle etc...
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
The CheaTR is a Stealth cam, not much lope.
You can expect in the 390 range. Not all car are equal you could even make more.
And yes it will gain HP with headers, an even more with proper heads.
Patrick G made in excess of 430rwhp with H/C and bolt ons.
That is very respectable from a cam that size, will pass a a sleeper and will pass emissions, it will drive like a champ, no bucking, surging, searching for idle etc...
You can expect in the 390 range. Not all car are equal you could even make more.
And yes it will gain HP with headers, an even more with proper heads.
Patrick G made in excess of 430rwhp with H/C and bolt ons.
That is very respectable from a cam that size, will pass a a sleeper and will pass emissions, it will drive like a champ, no bucking, surging, searching for idle etc...
hmmm interesting...thanks alot... definetly worth thinking about
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This cam requires dual valve springs doesnt it. On thunders site it lists for cam kits with single springs..and the CheaTR isnt listed but it is listed in the kit for dual springs. So its basically gonna be $799 for everything i need for installation...?
Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
You can shim 918s to .050 from coilbind and run them, or 921s