Z'mnypit

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If the heads were 4 years old does that mean the springs were also 4 years old? If so then that was prolly the problem. Ive ran set after set of Patriot Dual springs on my cars and others cars without the 1st problem, Id highly reccommend them. They are good up to .650 lift & come with everything you need, locks, seats, valve seals, retainers, springs. Give gunnar a call he'll fix up.

Quickin

Mine were Manley springs. Who is Gunnar?


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777

iTrader: (21)

I like my PRC duals. I think they are good for .670 lift. Not sure though.

Gunner either works for, or owns, Patriot Performance. I'm not sure of his position there. He's an awesome guy.

Quickin

I'm thinking since each of the 5 springs that broke had broken dampers in them, that the guy at the head shop hit the nail on the head. The dampers caused them to break. All the other springs were perfectly fine. He said its just a plain waste of time to use dampers anymore. If it wasn't for the dampers I'd still be fine with no broken springs. I'm leaving them out this time.


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GuitsBoy

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While this is a good start, you shouldnt drive agressively till 10 minutes after you reach full operating temp. The oil temp dosnt come up till way after the water temp does, and you want heat in those springs otherwise theyre brittle.

Also, the gold dual kits do not come with dampers.

777

iTrader: (21)

Yup, I keep my car under ~2000rpms until my oil pressure drops down from 55-60 to 40-45psi.

Z'mnypit

iTrader: (58)

Gunnar works at Patriot. As stated above the gold kit doesnt come with the dampers. So the springs were 4 yrs old though?

Bad30th

iTrader: (13)

Glad to hear you found the problem - and you should be counting your lucky stars haha.

Rock on !

Rob (Bad30th)

Gunnar@Patriot

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Quickin

Just came from the shop that has my heads. The machined circles around the guides where the cup would sit, then the spring on top of the cup, are all different depths. He can't machine them deeper to make them all match because he doesn't want to get too close to going through into the ports. So he has to machine cups to make them all work. I need all new guides too, because the valves move alot when their in, too much wiggle in them.

He's gonna let me know what its gonna take tomorrow.

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GDM Z28

iTrader: (16)

quickin im glad they came out so quickly.....you and joe came to my house but i was passed out then i woke up and joe said you guys decided to do it at your moms house. Get that beast back together.

1999TransamWs6

iTrader: (21)

WOW the heads came off with head studs!!! LOL Now everyone knows it can be done. I did it . Hopefully it will be put back together by the end of the week so we can take her out for a spin

GuitsBoy

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Cant beat this bang for the buck. Great springs and they take a lot of abuse!

Quickin

How much should new valve guides and seals cost, all 16?


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Quickin

Its a good thing we just did it over here since its taking a little longer, I guess I should have figured for that.

Quickin

Cleaned the pistons:

1999TransamWs6

iTrader: (21)

did you clean all the gasket off of the deck too?

Quickin

Yup, its smooth as glass. I'm gonna sand it too though, by hand.


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1999TransamWs6

iTrader: (21)

I use 400 grit sand paper and wd40

Quickin

I was gonna use 600, but I have 400 too. Its pretty friggin smooth already though. I have to go to Orlando tomorrow and I'll probably be back Wednesday night, maybe Thursday. I'll do it when I get back.