XER vs LSK, smart cam guys help out a little.
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Left a message for Geoff today so hoping he can get back to me pretty soon cause i'm pretty anxious to talk to him.
Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
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True, but it sure would be nice if all the people at Comp knew what they were talking about.
Yup. Comp has other high lift lobes that work in addition to the LSK. Thunder is using them to grind me a custom order cam. Geoff is the man to talk to. Nice thing too is that TR puts the cam on the cam doctor for you to make sure Comp got it right. Gives a little piece of mind when playing with the non-standard lobes.
Bottom line is TR, a SPONSOR, is a great place to buy a cam.![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
True, but it sure would be nice if all the people at Comp knew what they were talking about.
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Yup. Comp has other high lift lobes that work in addition to the LSK. Thunder is using them to grind me a custom order cam. Geoff is the man to talk to. Nice thing too is that TR puts the cam on the cam doctor for you to make sure Comp got it right. Gives a little piece of mind when playing with the non-standard lobes.
Bottom line is TR, a SPONSOR, is a great place to buy a cam.
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Sadly enough I was the one at Comp who knew about all these lobes and the one who was trying to get the good people at LS1tech to use them. These LSK lobes are not in the master lobe catalog but all of them are in their computer if you know how to find them. They were never a propritery lobe..nor were they made for lingenfelter. TR is a great bunch of guys but, plese remember that Comp is a sponsor also.
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Originally Posted by Unaffiliated Racing
Sadly enough I was the one at Comp who knew about all these lobes and the one who was trying to get the good people at LS1tech to use them. These LSK lobes are not in the master lobe catalog but all of them are in their computer if you know how to find them. They were never a propritery lobe..nor were they made for lingenfelter. TR is a great bunch of guys but, plese remember that Comp is a sponsor also.
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Originally Posted by Unaffiliated Racing
Sadly enough I was the one at Comp who knew about all these lobes and the one who was trying to get the good people at LS1tech to use them. These LSK lobes are not in the master lobe catalog but all of them are in their computer if you know how to find them. They were never a propritery lobe..nor were they made for lingenfelter. TR is a great bunch of guys but, please remember that Comp is a sponsor also.
Hi Brian... Where've you been????
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Thanks for setting the record straight! Amazing how the BS and false rumors spread so easily around here...
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When you get a chance... contact me so I can send some biz your way.
BTW... that last comment will sure hit a nerve!!!
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The word WAS is past tense. lol A Comp employee posting on message boards is a big no no and will get you run off. They like to advertise (5 banners on this board) but that is where their sponsorship ends. No active envolvement. I was the only one wanting to deal with the 40k + members of LS1tech, none of the other techs care to hassle with it......
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Originally Posted by Unaffiliated Racing
Sadly enough I was the one at Comp who knew about all these lobes and the one who was trying to get the good people at LS1tech to use them. These LSK lobes are not in the master lobe catalog but all of them are in their computer if you know how to find them. They were never a propritery lobe..nor were they made for lingenfelter. TR is a great bunch of guys but, plese remember that Comp is a sponsor also.
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Originally Posted by Unaffiliated Racing
Ed as you can see from my last post..it's not my problem if it hits a nerve. Send me you number in a PM and i'll drop you a line buddy.
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Better get me through LS1GTO.com.... I shut off the PM function on this site to avoid the sponsor backlash, thinking I'm trolling for customers...
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Originally Posted by Unaffiliated Racing
Sadly enough I was the one at Comp who knew about all these lobes and the one who was trying to get the good people at LS1tech to use them. These LSK lobes are not in the master lobe catalog but all of them are in their computer if you know how to find them. They were never a propritery lobe..nor were they made for lingenfelter. TR is a great bunch of guys but, plese remember that Comp is a sponsor also.
1) I called on Jan 25 2006 to get information on using LSK lobes in my application. The rep I spoke to flat out told me they were not for use on LS1's. These lobes have been around for a while, there is no reason for the sales staff not to know what works.
2) The fact that many of us buy Comp cams rather Crane or Cam Motion is a benefit of sponsorship. There are a lot of discussions on here where Comp lobes get a recommendation. I realize that Comp would make more money if I ordered direct, rather than through TR, but I like knowing that TR is there to knowledgably explain my lobe options and making sure I get exactly what I ordered.
Too bad Comp's policy prevents you from participating. I remember Hadley Owens coming on the board when there problems with the FAST 90mm TB and helping a number of people get the problem resolved just by saying "Call me directly, here's my number."
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I shut off the PM function on this site to avoid the sponsor backlash, thinking I'm trolling for customers...
I shut off the PM function on this site to avoid the sponsor backlash, thinking I'm trolling for customers...
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Gee, maybe if you actually posted usefull information, rather than making comments implying how smart you are, we would not think you're just trolling. This thread is a great example. Instead of identifying the lobes and explaining what can be done, you just make a quip that you know some information that you will not share in public and that you can order these secret lobes. That sure comes accross as someone trolling for business.
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Talked to Geoff today, great guy, first sponser i talked to that actuly went out of his way to look at different grids that would work best for me other then the off the shelf cams they sell.
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oh yea and you might want to think about a 227/234 same as the trak cam but a little less on the intake with the lsk and a little wider LSA, Geoff and i were talking about that. Would perform a lot like the trak but little easier to DD.
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Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
Gee, maybe if you actually posted usefull information, rather than making comments implying how smart you are, we would not think you're just trolling. This thread is a great example. Instead of identifying the lobes and explaining what can be done, you just make a quip that you know some information that you will not share in public and that you can order these secret lobes. That sure comes accross as someone trolling for business.
Why should I bother explaining anything in detail on this site?
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If I do post up some of my ideas and customer results, people like "you" will just sit back and bang out some sarcastic remark about me "trolling" for business... If I don't say anything, you say the same thing!
Hmmm... wait.. you just proved my point! Thanks!
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Originally Posted by EDC
Why should I bother explaining anything in detail on this site?
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If I do post up some of my ideas and customer results, people like "you" will just sit back and bang out some sarcastic remark about me "trolling" for business... If I don't say anything, you say the same thing!
Hmmm... wait.. you just proved my point! Thanks!
Ed
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Why does everyone keep pushing the guy???
If he doesn't infringe on forum rules, please leave the man alone. To flame what you can't understand is utter ignorance.
Ed's presence on this board is welcome by a lot of us and it would be a shame not to mention unethical to bulley him just for the fact that he doesn't wish to sponsor this board.
If he doesn't infringe on forum rules, please leave the man alone. To flame what you can't understand is utter ignorance.
Ed's presence on this board is welcome by a lot of us and it would be a shame not to mention unethical to bulley him just for the fact that he doesn't wish to sponsor this board.
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Why does everyone keep pushing the guy???
If he doesn't infringe on forum rules, please leave the man alone. To flame what you can't understand is utter ignorance.
Ed's presence on this board is welcome by a lot of us and it would be a shame not to mention unethical to bulley him just for the fact that he doesn't wish to sponsor this board.![Rolleyes](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/rolleyes.gif)
If he doesn't infringe on forum rules, please leave the man alone. To flame what you can't understand is utter ignorance.
Ed's presence on this board is welcome by a lot of us and it would be a shame not to mention unethical to bulley him just for the fact that he doesn't wish to sponsor this board.
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Well in truth it was the moderator that made the trolling statement.
What do you mean by "can't understand"? Are you referring that we cannot learn? That our intellects are finite
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Originally Posted by SideStep
Well in truth it was the moderator that made the trolling statement.
What do you mean by "can't understand"? Are you referring that we cannot learn? That our intellects are finite
good lord man! I think that statement is ignorance in its self. No one doubts Ed has exceptional knowledge in the area. What many have issue with is the "I cannot tell you because you cannot possibly fathom what I know" attitude. If Ed has extreme trade secrets and does not want to expose them that is absolutely fine, but we do not need to hear about all the time. Otherwise it is just an ego trip. To be frank Ed probably does get business from this forum via word of mouth…
What do you mean by "can't understand"? Are you referring that we cannot learn? That our intellects are finite
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I'm sure that Ed has his reasons why he doesn't sponsor, I doubt if most of know what they are. Therefore none of us can pass judgement.
Therefore to do so, would be ignorance.
That is what I mean.
I just feel that he gets bullied and that should not occur.
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Originally Posted by EDC
Why should I bother explaining anything in detail on this site?
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If I do post up some of my ideas and customer results, people like "you" will just sit back and bang out some sarcastic remark about me "trolling" for business... If I don't say anything, you say the same thing!
Hmmm... wait.. you just proved my point! Thanks!
Ed
Your post was a gratuitous solicitation. No one learned anything other than you can order lobes other than XER and XE. You could have posted what lobes work, but you didn't. A simple statement such as "XFI lobes can used in an LS1" would not be solicting and would be useful techincal information.
Maybe you feel the information is proprietary. If you consider the information propietary, why bother to post at all? LG won't post their cam specs or how they design cams and that's fine. If that's your business strategy, that's cool. Just don't come on here and hint about all your expertise if you're not willing to share it, because that is just a form of solicitation.