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Old 04-09-2006, 08:36 PM
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If you were sold on the F13 then the Torqer from TSP should be almost a perfect 2nd choice.
It is a hair larger and on the XER grind a tiny bit more aggressive.
Not noticeable to many.
I would 100% say this would be a great cam choice.
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Yea I see it's basically your cam with a touch more exahust lift and duration, looks solid, did you get dyno numbers on your setup?
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Originally Posted by JZ'sTA
If you were sold on the F13 then the Torqer from TSP should be almost a perfect 2nd choice.
It is a hair larger and on the XER grind a tiny bit more aggressive.
Not noticeable to many.
I would 100% say this would be a great cam choice.
Yea I'm fairly set on the Torquer but I'm still keeping my options open if only for a bit. Those Katech heavy duty rod bolts may be all I need to rev it out to 6500rpm without holding my breath everytime, if that turns out to be the case then I'll probably go with the Torquer, but the 228R or 230/224 are still viable options for a slightly milder cam too.

Decisions decisions...
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Ill have some the first of june ( when I get the car out). I am still trying to get my head choice figured out as well.

I went with it because I was really liking the rpm range of the f11, and people are getting some good numbers with it. SO I got one with the same duration on xe-r lobes with a bit more lift....it should work very well I am hoping. I dont see why it would not.
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get the LG G5X-3@114. its very streetable and will make tons of power and torque. its well proven month after month, cant go wrong with it.
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Man I am in the same boat as you. I wanted the F14 but now I don't have a clue what to do. I will be running stock 3.42s as well til the 10 bolt blows and I go 12 bolt and 3.90s. Maybe a custom spec'd cam would be the way to go for me. Can you just call Comp and have them do it that easy? How does it work?
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I was set on the F14 too then ended changing my mind becuase of all this. Did a lot of research and gave Geoff at Thunder Racing a call. Great guy spent the time to work with what i wanted, i gave him some ideas i had and he gave me some of his. We ended ordering a 228/232 .638/.643 112 + 2 using LSK lobes both on the intake and exhaust i'm pretty excited to see how this performs.

But i would give him a call or Trevor at TSP since out of all the guys i talked to they were the most receptive to my needs.

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Brian...yes it is that easy...I couldnt believe it.
I called ls1speed...you are going to pay more if you go through comp. They give the specs directly to comp and then comp makes the cam and sends it to you...but you get the benefit of the discounted price by going through them
It might have been harder if it was an all out custom cam but I used some lobe numbers from the catalog so it would be very hard to screw it up.
I just called and told them I wanted lobe number 3724r on the intake/ and 3725r on the exhaust. a 112lsa and 4 degrees of advance ground in....and that was all. I had the cam in about 5 or 6 business days after I hung up the phone...very very nice, and only 379 for any cam you want. the cam looks flawless with no signs of any kind of grooves...flawless

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Originally Posted by BriancWS6
Man I am in the same boat as you. I wanted the F14 but now I don't have a clue what to do.
I got the Torquer 2 and my car made 430hp and 409tq with bolt ons only and no FAST or true duals. Id say go with the Torquer 2 and get a GOOD tune.

It's not bad at all driveability wise and sounds perfect for the street
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well thats not the norm, so dont expect those kind of numbers. Just try to find the average which will prolly be in the 400-410 range with bolt ons. Either way the torquer is a nice cam i almost went with it myself.
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Am I the only one who saw that he wanted to max out at 62-6300 rpms? You all are recommending cams that peak above his goals. He wants to be in the 224-226 duration.
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
Am I the only one who saw that he wanted to max out at 62-6300 rpms? You all are recommending cams that peak above his goals. He wants to be in the 224-226 duration.

Huh, yea didn't pick that up, and with stock gears and only moving up to a 3.73 later, a mid 220's cam will prolly be much better suited for him. Might not get his 400 rwhp he wants but you can get best of both worlds, plus he'll make more power in the range he wants it in with the smaller cam.
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he's got ported dart heads as well. He'll hit 400+rwhp no problem with a 220-226
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FINALLY...thanks blanco...thats what I have been saying all along.
Thats why I went with the cam in my sig...pushed the rpm issue to the edge of how far I wanted to go. It is advanced 4 on a 112...and its not that big...so mine should be good for a 6400 shift point, thats why I recommended it to him...or something similar like the 228r.
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What I'm debating between right now is a TSP 231/237 and a LG G5x2, maybe the TR 230/224 as well, basically something along the lines of a ~.595 lift and ~230-234 duration, enough to give a good blend of top end with solid mid range.
That is his criteria, 6200>6300 shifts doesn't mean he has to reduce durations. Just tailor the IVC to make the power peak early <42 IVC like 38/39
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
That is his criteria, 6200>6300 shifts doesn't mean he has to reduce durations. Just tailor the IVC to make the power peak early <42 IVC like 38/39
Why not just put the right cam in there in the first place to meet his goals? You've seen my numbers and graph, I still havent seen it beat yet by a bigger cam under 6000 rpms. My point is I know you can adjust and tune to make it work but why settle for less hp and tq on the bottom end if you dont have to? I honest;ly think the best thing he can do is get a custom grind to meet his goals. I would have gone with what was configured for my cam but it wasnt that much of a difference than what I already have so it isnt worth it. He has the chance now to make it right in the first place. An off the shelf cam will not be the same as a custom ground cam and since the price is the same why no do it right? He can pm me for the website if he wants.
IF he wanted to run that thing to say 65-6800 rpms then I'd be all over the 23x durations. But to each his own right. Its all good.
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Well here's the deal.. wouldn't you know it, I get a call today from Futral and my F13 is already shipped. So.. since i'll be utilizing a ported Z06 oil pump, a double roller and a set of Katech heavy duty rod bolt, I'm thinking I can safley swing the bottom end to 6500 to utilizing the cams' top end breathing yes?

I have to admit, you guys have me thinking alot about a mid ange 228R style cam should I keep the rpms lower, but with the fortifications to the botom now I'm a little more comfortable up top, especially with the 3.73's.

Thoughts?
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F13 is a great cam, and if you already got it coming there is NO reason to go with somthing else.

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