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Cam help OK after countless hours of searching and posting i need to make a decision. Im ordering FAST 90/90, and heads from TSP but decing on what cam to get. At first i wanted the MS3 but i daily drive it and i dont feel comfortable revving past 6400 on stock bottom end, then i stepped down to the 233/239 and for the same reasons i want smaller. Now im looking ionto the 228r and wondering how you guys like it. I want to have an awesome lope, any sound clips on a 112 lsa would help. I want the power and tourque to be good under the curve thru 6200 rpm so is this the cam for me? i also want it to be fun on the street.( torque) and im staying N/A fo sho..
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Originally Posted by BLACKNREDSS
OK after countless hours of searching and posting i need to make a decision. Im ordering FAST 90/90, and heads from TSP but decing on what cam to get. At first i wanted the MS3 but i daily drive it and i dont feel comfortable revving past 6400 on stock bottom end, then i stepped down to the 233/239 and for the same reasons i want smaller. Now im looking ionto the 228r and wondering how you guys like it. I want to have an awesome lope, any sound clips on a 112 lsa would help. I want the power and tourque to be good under the curve thru 6200 rpm so is this the cam for me? i also want it to be fun on the street.( torque) and im staying N/A fo sho..
I too stepped down from the MS3 after much reading and research. Ended up getting the 233/239 that you mentioned. It's still a pretty good sized cam and will need to be spun pretty hard to make all the power, but I believe I can live with that.
Take a look at the Torqure V2 that TSP is offering. If I'm not mistaken, it makes good power throughout the rev range and doesn't have to be spun to the moon continuously.
Also, as with any considerably sized cam, gears will help tremendously. I hope to go either 3:73 or 4:10 before long.
Definitely check out the Torquer...and look in the video section for the clips you asked about.
If you're interested, I have a sound clip of the 233/239 on 113LSA that you talked about before. It'll show you that you don't necessary have to go with the lower LSA to get a good sounding idle.
And btw, don't ever take everything you read on the web for the gospel. There's a ton of great info on here, but you're best bet is to call the pros whether it be TSP or whoever.
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thnaks for the replies, but im def narrowed down to the 228r, G5x1, or FM13. I dont want peak horsepower, I want somethin that will be nasty on the street with a nastiest idle possible in the 228 to 232 size range
Originally Posted by BLACKNREDSS
thnaks for the replies, but im def narrowed down to the 228r, G5x1, or FM13. I dont want peak horsepower, I want somethin that will be nasty on the street with a nastiest idle possible in the 228 to 232 size range
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If you are stuck with a 112 lsa then try looking at 224 size cam will take peak power at about 6150 and not drop off till about 6400 even then you are still making good power. Another bonus you dont need to get gears to get this cam. It will make 350rwtq below 3000 rpm. Im glad you are deciding not to over cam your motor.
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so what do you guys think : FAST 90/90, PRC stage 1.5 5.3L heads, TSP 228R 112 LSA, with 4.10s. What do u guys think? should i get diff heads fomr TSP like the ported z06s or what? also where does the 228 top out at snce i dont wanna spin past 6400, if the 228 has the power past 6400 ill step down to the 224
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Originally Posted by blacknredss
thnaks for the replies, but im def narrowed down to the 228r, G5x1, or FM13. I dont want peak horsepower, I want somethin that will be nasty on the street with a nastiest idle possible in the 228 to 232 size range
edit: Our 1/4 times are pretty much the same now too. Crazy, great looking car by the way
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thanks for compliments man, and yep i feel u on the loss of traction part 
i read the torque coming out of my ears thread from beginning to end and have almost decided on a 228R 112lsa advanced +4, should be a torque beast and lots of power from 2000 to 6200 ,so with 4.10s i will always be within the powerband 
i read the torque coming out of my ears thread from beginning to end and have almost decided on a 228R 112lsa advanced +4, should be a torque beast and lots of power from 2000 to 6200 ,so with 4.10s i will always be within the powerband On The Tree
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Ya the 228R seems to be good, but I kinda like the g5x1 as well the 228/232 was told on 112+4 had power from 2500 to 6500 oh and a nice plus it sounds bad *** 
, I thought patric was saying it was not good to advance a cam that much? He was making me want no advance on only +2 on my cam. Do you have the 4.10s already because if not you gonna find even more traction problems.
, I thought patric was saying it was not good to advance a cam that much? He was making me want no advance on only +2 on my cam. Do you have the 4.10s already because if not you gonna find even more traction problems. Thread Starter
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nope i still have the 3.42s, i actually i didnt spin when i did about a 5 sec burnout with my 315 nt555Rs, but i hooked so good that it bogged way down even tho i had it floored, so i figured 4.10s would solve that... and patrick was the one that told me to get the 228R on a 110 lsa +4 advanced, but i dunno about a 110 lsa daily driver...
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Well I only have 315 sumitomo tires 
be careful with 4.10s and big nittos or 10 bolt might be a goner. Ed Wright told me to go with 112 or 114 because the 110 would be too peaky for what I want. So I think g5x1 or 228R 112+2 for me once I get little more cash in the bank
be careful with 4.10s and big nittos or 10 bolt might be a goner. Ed Wright told me to go with 112 or 114 because the 110 would be too peaky for what I want. So I think g5x1 or 228R 112+2 for me once I get little more cash in the bank Thread Starter
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actually the lower the LSA the lower the peak power is in the RPMs sso a 228R 112 LSA should peak at about 6200, but a 110LSA should peak a tad lower, but yes i will prolly be going with the 228R 112LSA, prolly not advANced at all, im sure ill be happy with it anyway cant wait
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Well I think he meant it would be more of a steep peek then wide torque curve. Ya I thought the 110 would peak sooner. Why did you go away from 110 lsa to just 112 no advance? Just curious, and you will have to post up how that works for you if you get it in soon.
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well my fourwheeler is up for sale and as soon as i sell it im ordering the cam/heads/ fast 90/90/ 4.10s so i wont be able to tell u how it does cam only, but i figured 110 LSA advanced +4 would def blow the rear end with all that torque and i want to make sure it pulls good up top to about 6400 so the 228 112 out of the box should be perfect
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Oh I see ya maybe another month and I will order a cam. Not sure if the g5x1 would need to rev over 6500. I do like it thogh. Maybe I will just get the 228r 112 and be done with it. Guess I have a month to read endlessly to try and figure it out 
Ya you won't see any dr's on my car with 10 bolt and 4.10s no way! Good luck with your setup sounds good.
Ya you won't see any dr's on my car with 10 bolt and 4.10s no way! Good luck with your setup sounds good. 
ill let u know when i get it