Heads and Cam question
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Heads and Cam question First of all what type of cam should I look for if I am looking for moderate horsepower gains but something streetable.. Is 224/224/14 too *****? or do you think that would fit what im looking for..
Also its obvious to me now that heads and cam go hand in hand what type of heads are recommended?
Last thing
when a cam is bought do I need to get a new timing chain, new pushrods and new rockers? If so what brand do you guys recommend?
Thanks,
sry for all the questions
later
Also its obvious to me now that heads and cam go hand in hand what type of heads are recommended?
Last thing
when a cam is bought do I need to get a new timing chain, new pushrods and new rockers? If so what brand do you guys recommend?
Thanks,
sry for all the questions
later
That cam is very streetable. You can go bigger and still be happy. I personally would go for the cheaper heads since your not going all out race application. Get a set of stock 243 casting heads off of ebay or a set of ls6 style stage II's from Patriot Performance. You don't have to change the timing chain, rockers, pushrods, etc to due the swap. It is at your own discretion, however, since the motor is torn apart anyways you might as well replace the pushrods with hardened rods from TSP or Thunder Racing (my preferences). You do not need new rockers unless your changing your ratio. Just make sure your heads have springs that match or exceed the limits of the cam.
Depending upon who you ask, a streetable cam can range from the stock cam to a mid 230's cam. If your looking for something that will drive like stock, but give you a large HP gain then your right on track with the cam size. A 224/228 114 or 112 cam would be a killer street setup with a set of PRC Stage 1 LS6 heads milled for higher compression. If you do a search on the stage 1 PRC LS6 heads I'm sure you'll find some good results as we have had several customers post up graphs and gains etc....
The PRC Stage 1 LS6 heads with the competition valve job are $999 plus shipping. If you order the cam with it at the same time I can get you a package deal together with all the things you might need like pushrods, oil pump, timing chain...etc. If you need pricing on a Heads/Cam package feel free to shoot me a PM!!
Here is a link to a recent post where a customer of ours picked up 50+ rwhp with these heads and a 230/228 cam!
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/480312-holy-sh-t-prc-stage-1-dyno-results.html
Hope this helps!!
-Zach
The PRC Stage 1 LS6 heads with the competition valve job are $999 plus shipping. If you order the cam with it at the same time I can get you a package deal together with all the things you might need like pushrods, oil pump, timing chain...etc. If you need pricing on a Heads/Cam package feel free to shoot me a PM!!
Here is a link to a recent post where a customer of ours picked up 50+ rwhp with these heads and a 230/228 cam!
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/480312-holy-sh-t-prc-stage-1-dyno-results.html
Hope this helps!!
-Zach
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Streetable means different things to different people. I, for example, consider my MS3 (237/242 .603/.609 113) to be 100% streetable even when matched to a 4,000 stall speed converter and dumped duals with bullet mufflers.
If you want it to drive similer to stock then you are on the right track with a ~224. You can definately make respectable power with a 224.
If you want it to drive similer to stock then you are on the right track with a ~224. You can definately make respectable power with a 224.
+1 Texas-Speed is right on the money and speaking of money in my opinion they have the best prices, and selection. The PRC LS6 heads are the best bang for the buck., and they have the proven performance I will definitley be buying them for my head cam set up...MS3 of course!
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Originally Posted by Joey7489
is it recommended to do an oil pump also?
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I wanted to be streetable also, I went with the PRC LS6 CNC Ported Heads with the comp cnc valve job, they were $999 with taxes i dont know,and TSP 228R Camshaft, 918 Springs & Pushrod Package, plus gasket and bolts etc total that was like $750,TSP Ported LS6 Oil Pump $129.99, Rollmaster Double-Roller Adjustable Timing Set at the time it was 126.99 but now it appears it dropped to $106 go figure. and a whole bunch of other crap. all came to somewhere around like $2300 plus ls6 intake manifold. so add $399. Have not installed yet so cant let you know how streetable it is, waiting for the rest of my order from qtp to do the rest. oh which was another $1250.
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a 224 cam with a set of prc or patriot heads will give you a great gain.
it will totally be streetable and youll be making over 400 h.p if you have all the bolt ons.
as for cam, get the whole cam kit.
it will totally be streetable and youll be making over 400 h.p if you have all the bolt ons.
as for cam, get the whole cam kit.
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
440hp 420 tq tr224 w/ TSP/PRC (5.3) 2.5 heads. Nothing wrong with a tr224 and a proper tune, really its the perfect street setup
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Originally Posted by Joey7489
its an 02..
think i should do rockers n pushrod then?
think i should do rockers n pushrod then?
I would definately do pushrods.
Cam, spring kit, pushrods, and possibly timing chain. Thing is you have to remove the oil pump to swap the timing chain. It is a slight PITA, so you may want to leave the timing chain stock or change both just for the hell of it.
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Originally Posted by Zach@Texas-Speed
Depending upon who you ask, a streetable cam can range from the stock cam to a mid 230's cam. If your looking for something that will drive like stock, but give you a large HP gain then your right on track with the cam size. A 224/228 114 or 112 cam would be a killer street setup with a set of PRC Stage 1 LS6 heads milled for higher compression. If you do a search on the stage 1 PRC LS6 heads I'm sure you'll find some good results as we have had several customers post up graphs and gains etc....
The PRC Stage 1 LS6 heads with the competition valve job are $999 plus shipping. If you order the cam with it at the same time I can get you a package deal together with all the things you might need like pushrods, oil pump, timing chain...etc. If you need pricing on a Heads/Cam package feel free to shoot me a PM!!
Here is a link to a recent post where a customer of ours picked up 50+ rwhp with these heads and a 230/228 cam!
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=480312
Hope this helps!!
-Zach
The PRC Stage 1 LS6 heads with the competition valve job are $999 plus shipping. If you order the cam with it at the same time I can get you a package deal together with all the things you might need like pushrods, oil pump, timing chain...etc. If you need pricing on a Heads/Cam package feel free to shoot me a PM!!
Here is a link to a recent post where a customer of ours picked up 50+ rwhp with these heads and a 230/228 cam!
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=480312
Hope this helps!!
-Zach
upgrade PR, springs, timing chain(double) UD pulley, and go with ported LS6 oil pump
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i think thats waht im gonna do... 224/228/114.. the 224 is the exhaust and the 228 the fuel/air correct?... does it matter which number is higher, i mean obviously one will run richer but does it honestly matter?
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I have the 224 on a 114 in my M6 and it pulls like no other ... put down almost 400hp on stock heads and intake once i get a fast 90 and a nice set of heads i cant wait to mess with these "big" cam guys.
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Originally Posted by Joey7489
i think thats waht im gonna do... 224/228/114.. the 224 is the exhaust and the 228 the fuel/air correct?... does it matter which number is higher, i mean obviously one will run richer but does it honestly matter?
It's intake duration, exhaust duration, then LSA. Common measurements, such as the ones you gave, or taken at .05" of lift.
Here's the link: https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/327734-cam-guide.html
