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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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Was just wondering if a 234/238 110 cam will fit stock heads. I noticed not a lot of people run an LSA much smaller than 112 so I was just making sure. Should I just stick with a 112 or will a 110 fit?
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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Nobody can answer this simple question? I know I cant. Well Im getting ready to buy this cam so if anybody thinks this is not a cam that will work or run well please let me know. Thanks!
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Why dont you get a T-Rex?
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:14 PM
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Installed @ 110cl The XE-R 234 lobe will give you .072 tappet lift @ TDC.

Multiply .072 tappet lift x 1.7 rocker ratio = 0.1224 valve lift @ TDC

Is 0.1224" too much lift @TDC using stock heads? I do not know what the Intake valve free drop is with your stock heads and OEM gasket. But you will need .085 PTV clearence @TDC.

You will need atleast .2074 intake valve free drop for this cam to work without hitting pistons.

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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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I know if it is a 110lsa, it is going to be choppy.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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I know if it is a 110lsa, it is going to be choppy.
Choppiness depends on total overlap and idle speed. My 224/228 110LSA cam has less chop than a G5X-3 on a 114LSA. Why? Because it has less overlap.

To answer the question, if a 242/248 110LSA T-Rex fits stock heads, then I would imagine a 234/238 110LSA cam would also fit, provided it wasn't advanced or retarded too far and provided you ran fast Comp XE-R lobes.
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So Ive got one person telling me that it will hit the pistons and ive got one person telling me it will fit just fine. Now im just more confused but i would think that if a trex would fit than this would since is a little smaller...we a lot smaller actually.
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why do u want 110LSA? just go with a 112 and be confident it works
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Well I would but there is someone selling a 234/238 110 for a good price and I was just going to buy. Plus it will sound badass. Should I wait for something else or will this be fine?
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Originally Posted by BLACKNREDSS
why do u want 110LSA? just go with a 112 and be confident it works
Why would you make a broad statement like that? In many cases, a 110LSA cam will be superior to a 112LSA cam. Depends on the needs of the enthusiast. For more area under the curve, the 110LSA in that duration range will be much better suited for providing solid area under the curve than a 112LSA cam of the same duration. Think before you write.
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It'll fit. Its really the lift you should be concernd about. There is really no way of knowing until you have an engine builder check your P/V clearances.

If you have doubts you can always just go w/ a t-rex as someone pointed out above. There's tons of people using those with stock heads.
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Its really the lift you should be concernd about. There is really no way of knowing until you have an engine builder check your P/V clearances.
--The lift on this cam is only .598/.598 so its not that high.

So the 110 will make more power under the curve? Thats what I figured but the guy told me it doesnt make peak power untill 6600-6700 RPM. Thats crazy high! I dont really want to spin that high. How would this compare to a G5X3 because it is between these two cams that I will be buying. Both will get me over the 400 mark so Im not worried about that. Which one is going to have a better curve? Im purchasing one of the two either tonight or tomorrow so any more in put would be very helpful. Thanks guys!
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by nokeman
--The lift on this cam is only .598/.598 so its not that high.

So the 110 will make more power under the curve? Thats what I figured but the guy told me it doesnt make peak power untill 6600-6700 RPM. Thats crazy high! I dont really want to spin that high. How would this compare to a G5X3 because it is between these two cams that I will be buying. Both will get me over the 400 mark so Im not worried about that. Which one is going to have a better curve? Im purchasing one of the two either tonight or tomorrow so any more in put would be very helpful. Thanks guys!
Peak power depends totally on intake centerline. With a 108 intake centerline (+2) your motor will peak at 6300.
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Do you have to have a 110* lsa cam?

There's plenty of people making great power with 112* cams. If your in doubt, just go with the 112*. I wouldn't lose any sleep over this subject. I doubt its going to make much difference anyway given you have stock heads.
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Originally Posted by 408WS6
Do you have to have a 110* lsa cam?

There's plenty of people making great power with 112* cams. If your in doubt, just go with the 112*. I wouldn't lose any sleep over this subject. I doubt its going to make much difference anyway given you have stock heads.
Please see post #10. Following the masses does not ensure you'll be the leader.
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Originally Posted by 408WS6
Do you have to have a 110* lsa cam?

There's plenty of people making great power with 112* cams. If your in doubt, just go with the 112*. I wouldn't lose any sleep over this subject. I doubt its going to make much difference anyway given you have stock heads.
exactly, what i was trying to say until patrick G bit my head off jk man but u dont have to get all offensive when all i said is go with the 112
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Please see post #10. Following the masses does not ensure you'll be the leader.
Whatever
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You guys should really listen to patrick. I have been reading up on a lot of his posting and he knows what he is talking about. He has had a bunch of different cams and can speak from experience. **** just look at the numbers he made with his cam in the sig.
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PS - I chose a 114* lsa for my new 408 and Bryan at Late Model Engines assisted me in determining the numbers for that grind. This motor should put 500 to the wheels easily. I just started it up for the first time yesterday and it sounds GREAT.

It is my opinion and my opinion only to not get to crazy when trying to come up with a cam grind for a basically stock motor. There is no clear answer to these questions when it comes to camshaft selection which is stated in the FAQ.
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o believe me i know he knows a lot, hes the reason i went with the 228R instead of MS3 tourque is where its at, alls i was sayin is i would rather have a 112 LSA for a daily driver, just my opinion, both will lope mean, im sure hed be plenty happy with either
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