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T-Rex will drag an MS3 car down the quarter mile
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T-REX vs. MS3 on the track.

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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Im not arguing that the Trex isnt faster but lets not forget the fact that the top cars in that list are M6 or 3 speed auto cars.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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Is there a comparable difference in driving between the ms3 and T-Rex?

I heard T-Rex is doable but a chore, the ms3 isnt so bad at all....
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Actually, you have to rev the MS3 higher than the T-Rex to make best ET. The reason why is that the T-Rex has better dynamic compression and builds better power under the curve. The mid-range torque is superior because of the narrower LSA and its top-end speaks for itself. The MS3 is a revver. The T-Rex is a monster.

Just look at the cam-only ET records and see what cams dominate the top. Either T-Rex's or T-Rex clones (like LS1 Joe's).
I am not trying to start a pissing match, but my MS3 peaked at 6600, which isn't that high of a rev.

If you had similar setups as far as converter, gearing, boltons, etc; I think the result would be too close to call. Both cams produce great numbers at the track. I daily drive my MS3 and driveability is great, but it is all in who tunes it. Bottom line is they are both great cams, and you can't go wrong with either.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BIG BAD BLACKSS
fastest trex is about 3 tenths and 6 1/2 mph faster then the fastest cam only MS3....
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-racing-results/187330-fastest-cam-only-cars-list.html
Lets compare the two vehicles, shall we???

Smokin01ta ---- 10.219@132.29 (1.38), 01 TA, M6, Spec4, 4.56, TRex, -1100, 3010, 3/06

Trevor @ TSP --10.510@125.80 (1.43), 98 Z, A4, TCI 4500, 4.56, MS3, -1000, 3175, 2/05

Rodney is 165lbs lighter, and has a M6 with 4.56s whereas Trevor has a A4 with 4.56s. Rodney comes out of the whole a lot harder, and MPH more. I think if you put a MS3 in Rodney's car, it would go 10.25-10.30.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 4thGenCamaro
If you had similar setups as far as converter, gearing, boltons, etc; I think the result would be too close to call. Both cams produce great numbers at the track. I daily drive my MS3 and driveability is great, but it is all in who tunes it. Bottom line is they are both great cams, and you can't go wrong with either.
All of the above should be stickied on these threads. Well put mang!
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 08:17 AM
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The Trex and similar seem to do better in an M6 car where the MS3 seems more at home in an auto. But the split on the MS3 seems more streetable. I could daily drive either with a good tune. Not sure if sound is a deciding factor for you but the T-Rex is LOUD. It sounds like a damn race car. The MS3 has a real nice sound too it but not quite as wild.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 08:18 AM
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It all depends on how open your exhaust is too.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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Well if you max potential out of the T-Rex then the more open the better. I will be running my stock cat-back with a cut-out to keep the neibors happy but once I hit the track, it's gunna come off.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by orangeapeel
It all depends on how open your exhaust is too.
Yeah, I have stepped headers, Flo-Pro Twister mufflers, then dumps, so with that and my MS3 it is fuggin' LOUD!
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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I am open Y right now till I can adapt the cat-back to the 4" Y.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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I'm LT's to open cutouts(open headers in essence). Loud? You dont even know the meaning
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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You have never heard a T-Rex with open Y in person. Sorry but your 223/226 on a 114 is nothing from a noise standpoint in comparison. Oh and I have heard a T-rex with completely open headers and it is no joke.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 4thGenCamaro
Lets compare the two vehicles, shall we???

Smokin01ta ---- 10.219@132.29 (1.38), 01 TA, M6, Spec4, 4.56, TRex, -1100, 3010, 3/06

Trevor @ TSP --10.510@125.80 (1.43), 98 Z, A4, TCI 4500, 4.56, MS3, -1000, 3175, 2/05

Rodney is 165lbs lighter, and has a M6 with 4.56s whereas Trevor has a A4 with 4.56s. Rodney comes out of the whole a lot harder, and MPH more. I think if you put a MS3 in Rodney's car, it would go 10.25-10.30.

I would like to add that that was one of 3 ever cam-only passes ever made in that car. We weren't as dedicated to cam-only as some have been, we didn't even know what it would run before that date. I would have liked to pull some more weight out of it and setup the suspension properly, there just wasn't the time nor care to do it right. Shortly afterwards we put a 200 shot on it and melted most of the shortblock anyway, lol.

Now that the car has a good fuel system and FAST XFI, we're thinking of doing a mild turbo setup, or possibly another Solid Roller motor, probably a 370ci setup either way.

I think either setup will get the user where he/she wants to be, as long as the combination is optimized for each cam.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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well, i have a ms3 and my friend has the t-rex. our cars are close in mods although mine is lighter. once he gets his car running we might have a pretty good ms3 vs t-rex battle.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BADSZ28
You have never heard a T-Rex with open Y in person. Sorry but your 223/226 on a 114 is nothing from a noise standpoint in comparison. Oh and I have heard a T-rex with completely open headers and it is no joke.

It was just a joke buddy I have a dinky cam compared to that monster (not to mention its on a 110 lsa with ungody lift.) Mine is respectably loud (I have the whole nascar thing going) but it isnt anything to go whoa about. Now this summer......MS3 goes in along with a 150 shot and we'll see how it sounds.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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Good read guys!! keep em comin'
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jperran
I swing from the nuts of the T-rex, so my vote isnt a valuable source of unbiased opinion.
LOL! At least you admitted it.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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Just wanted to add that MS3 is winning by 3 votes for draggin T-Rex lol
LMAO!

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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 11:29 PM
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I cant wait to hear my t-rex through my straight pipes!
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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Just get a Godzilla cam and be done with it.
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