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View Poll Results: Which cam will produce a better ET?
T-Rex will drag an MS3 car down the quarter mile
322
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MS3 will drag a t-rex car down the quarter mile
162
33.47%
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T-REX vs. MS3 on the track.
T-REX vs. MS3 on the track. Me and my buddy are discussing cams and my feeling is the T-Rex will be a little less street freindly, but put down a betetr ET at the track. He feels the MS3 is more drivable and will dominate at the track. Whats everyone elses feelings on this. Which cam would be superior on the track with all the supporting mods to run either cam.
Just so were clear we are only discussing on the track performance here. I completely agree the MS3 will be more drivable. I just think the T-Rex will rock its world on the track thats all. 
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I dont think a T-Rex car would ROCK a MS3 in anyway.
I would say T-Rex car should win but not by much here.
1-2mph in the 1/4 mile difference.
If the T-rex is setup right with big gears etc..
I would say T-Rex car should win but not by much here.
1-2mph in the 1/4 mile difference.
If the T-rex is setup right with big gears etc..
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Originally Posted by CraZee ZO6
I dont think a T-Rex car would ROCK a MS3 in anyway.
I would say T-Rex car should win but not by much here.
1-2mph in the 1/4 mile difference.
If the T-rex is setup right with big gears etc..
I would say T-Rex car should win but not by much here.
1-2mph in the 1/4 mile difference.
If the T-rex is setup right with big gears etc..
Point is. This car is a DD. So will I give up 1-2mph in the quarter (MUCH less than a 10th) for driveability? Oh hell yeah. His post of "who's dragging who" is just RETARDED
fastest trex is about 3 tenths and 6 1/2 mph faster then the fastest cam only MS3....
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-racing-results/187330-fastest-cam-only-cars-list.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-racing-results/187330-fastest-cam-only-cars-list.html
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Originally Posted by BIG BAD BLACKSS
fastest trex is about 3 tenths and 6 1/2 mph faster then the fastest cam only MS3....
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187330
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187330
I was talking in general not your car specifically. I told you for what you want an MS3 is good fro you as youll be driving it on the street alot. My arguement is the trex cam is a more track biased cam as the MS3 is slightly more street biased in comparison to the trex. You swore up and down it would make more power under the curve and the trex only comes ahead by a couple HP at the very high HP range and that the MS3 would therefore beat the T-Rex on the track. Thats what i disagreed with.
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For me its unfair comparision since every car is different , there must be some good factors so we can make this fair , and some of those factors are gearing , weight , tuning , driver , stick or auto .... etc .
I would probably compare the 2 cars if they were build equally , and when I mean equally , cam only plus the factors that i listed above.
I would probably compare the 2 cars if they were build equally , and when I mean equally , cam only plus the factors that i listed above.
Ok lets use his car for that comparison. 00 WS6, 6 speed, 12 bolt 4.10 gear, hooker long tubes, off road Y, and catback, lid, and a short stick. Full weight.
Again its a bad comparison as it cant rev to the T-Rex's potential safely in my opinion. It needs a couple mods to safely support the full capacity of either cam still.
Also i beleive the MS3 will do well in this car as its heavy, but i still think the TRex if reved enough will win on the track.
Again its a bad comparison as it cant rev to the T-Rex's potential safely in my opinion. It needs a couple mods to safely support the full capacity of either cam still.
Also i beleive the MS3 will do well in this car as its heavy, but i still think the TRex if reved enough will win on the track.
Last edited by BIG BAD BLACKSS; Apr 20, 2006 at 05:33 PM.
Neither cam is gonna run away from the other.If both cars are setup totally equal, which will never happen it will come down to a drivers race with the TREX maybe edging out the MS3 by a very small amount.Both cams have the abiltly to put down great numbers as long as the setup is right.
It took me a while to decide between both cams but what it cam down to for me is the fact that the MS3 is a better nitrous cam.Now all i have to do is get some TR6s in the car and see what it will do on a 150 shot
It took me a while to decide between both cams but what it cam down to for me is the fact that the MS3 is a better nitrous cam.Now all i have to do is get some TR6s in the car and see what it will do on a 150 shot
Last edited by grimloc3; Apr 20, 2006 at 06:24 PM.
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Originally Posted by grimloc3
Neither cam is gonna run away from the other.If both cars are setup totally equal, which will never happen it will come down to a drivers race with the TREX maybe edging out the MS3 by a very small amount.Both cams have the abiltly to put down great numbers as long as the setup is right.
It took me a while to decide between both cams but what it cam down to for me is the fact that the MS3 is a better nitrous cam.Now all i have to do is get some TR6s in the car and see what it will do on a 150 shot
It took me a while to decide between both cams but what it cam down to for me is the fact that the MS3 is a better nitrous cam.Now all i have to do is get some TR6s in the car and see what it will do on a 150 shot
The thing that got me was that BigBad was making it out that the TREX would run laps around an MS3 which it won't. (Not even CLOSE).
Actually, you have to rev the MS3 higher than the T-Rex to make best ET. The reason why is that the T-Rex has better dynamic compression and builds better power under the curve. The mid-range torque is superior because of the narrower LSA and its top-end speaks for itself. The MS3 is a revver. The T-Rex is a monster.
Just look at the cam-only ET records and see what cams dominate the top. Either T-Rex's or T-Rex clones (like LS1 Joe's).
Just look at the cam-only ET records and see what cams dominate the top. Either T-Rex's or T-Rex clones (like LS1 Joe's).
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
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2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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