2kSnakeEater

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ok I have a stock 2000 Trans Am 6spd w/tcs, my goal is to have 500-600 hp/500-800 Torque, the car be drivable as stock and be able to take 4000-5000 rpm clutch dumps with drag tires and nothing breaking. Having the A/C and power everything is a must, this will be just a fast street car with maybe 5-10 Track runs after its all done. Here is a list of stuff that I think I will need:

Ati Super Charger with dual intercoolers
Upgraded T56 to take that much power(I need a sponsor to pm me on this)
Heads to make the best of that charger(need advice on what head to go with)
Z06 Cam (iv heard thats a pretty good cam to use with Fi, I could be wrong)
12 bolt w/ 3.73 gear 4 channel
Ls7 clutch/ls2 flywheel
Ls6 intake mani
Hooker headers/Y pipe
Corsa exhaust
and an electric cut out somewhere in the mix

Is there anything Im forgeting? And if you see a flaw in this design please post! Il add it to the list or make changes as I see fit




So far Iv got:
ATI Dual intercooled charger
AFR 205 Heads
Stealth II cam (224/220, .581/.581 116+0-Stealth II)
12 bolt
Textralia Spec 3 clutch
Upgrade Tranny
Walborow Fuel pump
Holley 50# Injectors

white2001s10

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Posted in wrong section.

willyfastz

Don't use the LS7 clutch you'll be happier with a good aftermarket clutch.

PREDATOR-Z

In Red...

dame

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Your gonna need $20,000 MINIMUM

You have too many flaws to list..... but your goal: IS doable.....IT JUST WON'T BE CHEAP!

LOTS of cubes
GREAT heads ($2200)
Small(ish) cam (low low 230's) ($400)
Fuel sytem (dual intanks,bigger rails,bigger injectors) ($1200+)
Ported 90/90 ($1400)
1 7/8 LT's (don't worry about a catback- you'll have a cutout right?) ($1000+)
A twin disk clutch (you want something that will hold 700+ rwtq right?) ($1200+)
built 6 speed ($2000+)
steel driveshaft ($350)
9" rear ($2500)
LCA's ($125)
PHR ($100)
SFC's ($125)
poly trans mount ($40)
poly motor mounts ($80)
shocks ($400+)
aftermarket Torque arm ($300+)



Last but not least.... a bottle (nitrous)........ ($1000+) if you HAVE to go FI (supercharger) that $20k I quoted wont be enough!

Good Luck You have about $13k right there WITHOUT THE SHORTBLOCK itself

2kSnakeEater

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Cant I do something like Exotic did here?

http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=12

2kSnakeEater

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(6.0 Iron block with boost pistons and spring gaps)
Id like to keep the stock ls1, maybe forge it later on in the future.


(224/220, .581/.581 116+0-Stealth II) How good is this cam with gas milage? I dont mind 15mpg street but Id like to keep the 26+ highway milage, if thats even posible.

(Spec 3 clutch) dont these thing blow up alot?

(QTP) I might go QTP Headers/cutout/y pipe

(AFR 205) this is a good FI head?

2kSnakeEater

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Iv heard alot of good things about this clutch, and it was designed for the Z06 505hp, why wouldnt it work with my goal of 500-600hp

PREDATOR-Z

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2kSnakeEater

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Thank you soo much predator, I now have a list of stuff I will be getting, also EP did their camaro @ 8psi making 520 rwh with a stock bottom end. Read below and tell me what you think

http://www.exoticperformanceplus.co...tCar.php?car=12

MightyBobo

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I think what most will probably say and, I may be a newbie, but I know what I would do in this situation but: do it once, do it right (or as close to right as you can). If you're going to run boost, and you've got ALL this money to throw around, dont leave a stock bottom end...you're just asking for it to go kaput, then you're REALLY f-ed when it throws it right out of your block.

Forge it. Bottom line, basically.

2kSnakeEater

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going forged will add another $5k ontop of all the crap Iv got to do, If exotic performance did their camaro @ 8psi on a 125k engine why cant I do the same on my 40k miles engine?

So far Iv got:
ATI Dual intercooled charger
205 Heads
Stealth II cam
12 bolt
Textralia Spec 3 clutch
Upgrade Tranny

PREDATOR-Z

With a meth injection and intercooler you can run 8>10 boost, but for how long ??
It is not that these numbers are not atainable, but how will it last?
I run a different type of boost, but boost nonetheless (nitrous), I've been through my second stock block on 150>200 shot, very well tuned. 1st lost the rod bolt and the second the ringlands.
So I'm going forged 6.0 with Wiseco nitrous pistons, forged rods, ARP everywhere to handle the boost.
On top of that look at your block, 2000, they didn't even put stronger rod bolts in yet.
IMO since you have a low mileage car, is to yank the stock motor and store it.
Build yourself a motor to hanfle all the stuff you throw at it. Later, you can always put the stocker back in and sell the car.

2kSnakeEater

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I will not be running nitrous, or ever will be, and I was told that nitrous is a different monster, since its an instant 100-200 hp when you press the button. Charger is linar and makes power as the rpms go up, so its not so hard on the engine. Is any of this right?

purdueranger

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Just because it worked for someone else doesn't mean it will work with your application. Have you thought about bigger injectors to put enough fuel into your motor? You will probably need a bigger fuel pump to support the extra amount of fuel.

How often does exotic performance drive that car with a stock bottom end? If I were you I would do a forged bottom end if you want to put 500-600 to the wheels. Might as well be safe than sorry.

2kSnakeEater

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Thanks for your sugestion, Iv added your stuff to the list

oh and this car will be a weekend car, it will not be a daily driver.

PREDATOR-Z

This would be doing it on reasonable budget:

6.0 forged with boost pistons>$3200
PP heads with choice of chambers (LS6 style, Ferrea valves)>$1400
Comp 650-16 lifters>$200
Comp 4.725 p-rods>$120
Comp cam>$360
Rebuild Gasket kit>$250
Oil Pump>$130
LS2 chain>$70
Underdrive pulley>$200
Turbo kit>$5500
Tranny>$2300
Clutch>$450
Differential>$2200
Custom exhaust>$1000
Miscalleneous>$500
Injectors>$350
Pump and harness>$550

That is $18780 in parts alone so before you plan any further think about this for awhile.

2kSnakeEater

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I might have to rethink my strategy, I know somebody selling a forged ls1 short block for $1800, but that might now be for sale that long and I dont get my cash until the end of this month.

dame

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I posted what I did because you said you also wanted
anyway just out of curiousity.... how much money did you think it was going to cost to have:
IMHO you need to do alot of overtime here on LS1 Tech using the search button, and learn a few things....then you'll look back at the comment you made about nitrous, and

btw those twin intercoolers are GARBAGE..... you'll be better off with a custom FMIC........ but im sure you already knew that.

either way good luck with your project.

dame

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Guess my $20k quote wasnt that far off.