Cam only or H/C
Cam only or H/C I am just about ready to place a custom order for a 224/228 cam on a 114 LSA. The valve springs will be upgraded to the Comp 921's with the Titanium retainers kit which I believe is around $525.
Question is should I just get a set of heads instead of the new valve spring setup and make the investment now?
What do you think? Heads need to come with equivalnt parts (Titanium retainers and Dual Springs).
What are good budget heads that have the above parts included?
Question is should I just get a set of heads instead of the new valve spring setup and make the investment now?
What do you think? Heads need to come with equivalnt parts (Titanium retainers and Dual Springs).
What are good budget heads that have the above parts included?
same thing i was going to recommend...theyre cheap in price and ive read plenty good about them...even TEA has a set of bad *** heads that come assembled for a good price
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LG Motorsports head cam pkg, $2,999 you pick cam and AFR 205's with 59,62,66 cc
would need to call and verify what springs they suggest you use 918's for X1, X2 cam
and 921's dual for X3 or X4 cam. 1-972-429-1963 ask for Bobby, and tell him Doug sent ya for a better price. Always buy the best you can afford, or wait until you can afford to buy the best. jmo
would need to call and verify what springs they suggest you use 918's for X1, X2 cam
and 921's dual for X3 or X4 cam. 1-972-429-1963 ask for Bobby, and tell him Doug sent ya for a better price. Always buy the best you can afford, or wait until you can afford to buy the best. jmo
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Verdad Gallardo Wow I would love to have those, but 3K is too much right now, especially considering I have a whole list of other mods that will be installed at the same time.
Shop said to stay away from the Patriot LS6 "Style" heads. Says he has seen too many cars blow from them. I don't have any experiece with heads so I can't comment on that.
Basically I just want a small upgrade from the stock heads which have nearly 90K on the clock. A good set of LS6 heads would be fine, coupled with my new 224/228 cam.
Shop said to stay away from the Patriot LS6 "Style" heads. Says he has seen too many cars blow from them. I don't have any experiece with heads so I can't comment on that.
Basically I just want a small upgrade from the stock heads which have nearly 90K on the clock. A good set of LS6 heads would be fine, coupled with my new 224/228 cam.
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Then why don't you look at the LG longtube headers and a FAST intake? Save to do the AFR's and G5X3 combo some other time. "LG Longtube headers, the most powerful header on the planet." No BS either, matched 32" long tubes into a Nascar style merge collector, with or without cats, I say no cats. Awesome sound, and perfect fit no cutting, at least on my car. The higher you are in RPMS the better these things sound. Absolute screamers. Always do it right the first time so you don't have to go back and do it again. JMO
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Originally Posted by sdbrown84
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Basically I just want a small upgrade from the stock heads which have nearly 90K on the clock. A good set of LS6 heads would be fine, coupled with my new 224/228 cam.
Basically I just want a small upgrade from the stock heads which have nearly 90K on the clock. A good set of LS6 heads would be fine, coupled with my new 224/228 cam.
Then look at these TSP CNC Ported LS6 heads... you can upgrade the springs and valve job. Also, you might want to ask them about milling them to a chamber size that works well with that cam....
$1149 with valve job and 918 springs...
http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp...d=649&catid=20
For the other mods waiting I have
QTP headers w/ HFMC
LS6 intake
Custom Y
Custom 224/228 cam
Comp 921 upgrade kit (Titanium retainers, seals, dual springs)
Poly Mounts
Dyno tune
Just looking to possibly invest in a set of good flowing heads. Would love to have the AFR's, but just don't think I could swing it now without an amazing deal...
QTP headers w/ HFMC
LS6 intake
Custom Y
Custom 224/228 cam
Comp 921 upgrade kit (Titanium retainers, seals, dual springs)
Poly Mounts
Dyno tune
Just looking to possibly invest in a set of good flowing heads. Would love to have the AFR's, but just don't think I could swing it now without an amazing deal...
I just did an F-13 230/232 on 114 lsa without messing with my heads. I am glad I did what I did, it leaves me a mod to do later, and I have felt HUGE gains in my setup. If you have lots of extra money though, go ahead and do them.
My buddies and I installed my cam in one weekend using the install guide on this site. None of us had ever done a cam install, so it was a hell of an experience.
Good luck,
My buddies and I installed my cam in one weekend using the install guide on this site. None of us had ever done a cam install, so it was a hell of an experience.
Good luck,
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5
Then why don't you look at the LG longtube headers and a FAST intake?
Originally Posted by allngn_c5
Save to do the AFR's and G5X3 combo some other time. "LG Longtube headers, the most powerful header on the planet." No BS either, matched 32" long tubes into a Nascar style merge collector, with or without cats, I say no cats. Awesome sound, and perfect fit no cutting, at least on my car. The higher you are in RPMS the better these things sound. Absolute screamers. Always do it right the first time so you don't have to go back and do it again. JMO
In every thread you post you seem to ram LG down everyones throats and basically come across as saying every other non LG product is *****! - Why?
Personally from what I've seen LG offers some great parts but not everyone has or wants to spend that much money and there's plenty of other people making great power and ET's using other components.
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Originally Posted by sdbrown84
I am just about ready to place a custom order for a 224/228 cam on a 114 LSA. The valve springs will be upgraded to the Comp 921's with the Titanium retainers kit which I believe is around $525.
Question is should I just get a set of heads instead of the new valve spring setup and make the investment now?
What do you think? Heads need to come with equivalnt parts (Titanium retainers and Dual Springs).
What are good budget heads that have the above parts included?
Question is should I just get a set of heads instead of the new valve spring setup and make the investment now?
What do you think? Heads need to come with equivalnt parts (Titanium retainers and Dual Springs).
What are good budget heads that have the above parts included?
Or you could get the heads on their own for under $1000 so they are pretty cheap. Sure they're not probably as good as heads costing $2000-2500 but they will still show gains over stock. Depends how much money you want too spend, I think there's several other people also selling CNC ported LS6 heads so have a look around.
But it depends what you're after, there are plenty of cam only cars out there making great power. Hoss is making 430rwhp cam only and bolt on's although they are an M6, auto's usually will show less rwhp but still perform as well. But this is quite a radical cam. H/C should allow you to see similar HP but on a milder setup.
Thunder Racing offer some great cam packages along with various heads. Generally speaking the more you spend the better the setup should be. However if you pick your parts carefully you should still be able to make great power on a lesser setup.
And of course LG offer some superb packages also
, no seriously they do and in the Vette world they are very highly regarded. But sadly it will cost you a fair chunck more money.You could simply go cam only for now and get some better heads later on down the road, swapping them over isn't all that hard. And cams themselfs aren't that expensive either, so even if you changed your cam again when you eventually do go for heads also it wouldn't be the end of the world. You could probably sell the old on and get some money back as well.
There's no right or wrong answer here, it just go with what you can afford and what you feel will meet your expectations.
That is some good advice. I just want to make sure that I get the most out of my money and the current tuning session. Basically the most expensive part is the installation. I know I don't have the ability to install a cam yet so I am having it done by a local shop that specializes in F-bodies.
As much as I don't want to, I will be sticking with the stock heads for now unless there are some great budjet LS6 ported heads out there.
Thanks for the good advice though.
As much as I don't want to, I will be sticking with the stock heads for now unless there are some great budjet LS6 ported heads out there.
Thanks for the good advice though.
Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
TSP have some new head & cam packages: https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=501830
Or you could get the heads on their own for under $1000 so they are pretty cheap. Sure they're not probably as good as heads costing $2000-2500 but they will still show gains over stock. Depends how much money you want too spend, I think there's several other people also selling CNC ported LS6 heads so have a look around.
But it depends what you're after, there are plenty of cam only cars out there making great power. Hoss is making 430rwhp cam only and bolt on's although they are an M6, auto's usually will show less rwhp but still perform as well. But this is quite a radical cam. H/C should allow you to see similar HP but on a milder setup.
Thunder Racing offer some great cam packages along with various heads. Generally speaking the more you spend the better the setup should be. However if you pick your parts carefully you should still be able to make great power on a lesser setup.
And of course LG offer some superb packages also, no seriously they do and in the Vette world they are very highly regarded. But sadly it will cost you a fair chunck more money.
You could simply go cam only for now and get some better heads later on down the road, swapping them over isn't all that hard. And cams themselfs aren't that expensive either, so even if you changed your cam again when you eventually do go for heads also it wouldn't be the end of the world. You could probably sell the old on and get some money back as well.
There's no right or wrong answer here, it just go with what you can afford and what you feel will meet your expectations.
Or you could get the heads on their own for under $1000 so they are pretty cheap. Sure they're not probably as good as heads costing $2000-2500 but they will still show gains over stock. Depends how much money you want too spend, I think there's several other people also selling CNC ported LS6 heads so have a look around.
But it depends what you're after, there are plenty of cam only cars out there making great power. Hoss is making 430rwhp cam only and bolt on's although they are an M6, auto's usually will show less rwhp but still perform as well. But this is quite a radical cam. H/C should allow you to see similar HP but on a milder setup.
Thunder Racing offer some great cam packages along with various heads. Generally speaking the more you spend the better the setup should be. However if you pick your parts carefully you should still be able to make great power on a lesser setup.
And of course LG offer some superb packages also
, no seriously they do and in the Vette world they are very highly regarded. But sadly it will cost you a fair chunck more money.You could simply go cam only for now and get some better heads later on down the road, swapping them over isn't all that hard. And cams themselfs aren't that expensive either, so even if you changed your cam again when you eventually do go for heads also it wouldn't be the end of the world. You could probably sell the old on and get some money back as well.
There's no right or wrong answer here, it just go with what you can afford and what you feel will meet your expectations.
if you dont mind lightly used......... keep your eye's on the forum's around and you can get a pretty good deal on some heads.
i just purchased some MTI stage 2e heads from a vette forum for $300 w/ new valves and 918 installed had em flowed and they flow great.. so stuff is out there you just need to be patient... im now waiting on that $200 ls6 intake lol
later aaron
i just purchased some MTI stage 2e heads from a vette forum for $300 w/ new valves and 918 installed
had em flowed and they flow great.. so stuff is out there you just need to be patient... im now waiting on that $200 ls6 intake lollater aaron